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Israelis Use Live Ammunition Against Palestinian DemonstratorsAired October 13, 2000 - 8:10 a.m. ET
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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Right now, we want to take you to the other site of conflict in the Middle East.
We go, now, back to the town of Ramallah where CNN's producer Sausan Ghosheh has been walking with several Palestinian demonstrators where shots have been fired.
Sausen, what is the situation there now?
SAUSAN GHOSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Just now, minutes ago we heard live ammunition coming from the direction of the Israeli army shooting in the direction of where I'm standing with the Palestinian demonstrators.
Earlier the demonstrator here were -- the usual rubber bullets and tear gas versus stones. We've heard, now, live ammunition coming directly from the Israeli side. There were machine guns firing before. It was unclear in which direction they were coming. We're not sure, we didn't see who was firing them, and they came from an area that could either be area B or area A.
The number of casualties, now, is up to five Palestinians from this side have been injured so far.
LIN: Sausan, can you describe exactly what you're seeing right now -- what the scene looks like?
GHOSHEH: Well, down the road the Israeli soldiers behind blockades with guns between the Palestinians and protesters and the Israeli soldiers there are stones on the road, lots of stones of the road and tires that are lit up, with fire, smoke coming out.
And on this side, closer to where I'm standing, there is Palestinian demonstrators. Many of them just standing, watching, trying to assess where the fire is coming from and where they should be heading and if they should be staying in the same position or not. Others are standing closer to the Israeli army, throwing stones -- Carol.
LIN: So what your saying is that the Palestinians, right now, are not willing to back down, even in the face of live fire?
GHOSHEH: There was a rally before they came here. Even though Arafat and Marwan Barghouthi called on the demonstrators not to go towards the checkpoint and to keep the demonstration within Ramallah area A, which is under the Palestinian authority. He also called for life to return to normal and for schools to open up.
But people here are seeing this as their war of independence, as intifadah. They use the words: this is the Intifadah of Palestinian Independence and they see it that Israel, for them, only understands the language of force; and for them, they have to resist Israel by any means in order for them to remove what they see as Israeli occupation.
LIN: Well, Sausan, where are the Palestinian police? Are they, in any way, trying to control this crowd?
GHOSHEH: The crowd is beyond the Palestinian area where the Palestinian police is supposed to stand. Palestinian police are standing at their checkpoint, but they're outnumbered by the people. Even if they tried to stop them, there are nearly 1,000 people here now and the Palestinian police are quite outnumbered.
And we should not, also, forget that, for the Palestinian police, they were attacked yesterday by the missiles, their headquarters. And it is very hard for them, they say, it's very hard for them to stand against the Palestinians who are supporting -- who are condemning, excuse me, the attack on the Palestinian headquarters today -- Carol.
LIN: All right, Sausan Ghosheh, we here the sound of sirens behind you. We will keep an eye on that situation and check back with you to see what happens next.
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