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Sex, Lies and Audiotape: The Jodi Arias Trial
Aired March 3, 2013 - 21:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening and welcome to this 360 special report, "Sex, Lies and Audiotape: The Jodi Arias Trial."
A capital murder trial unlike any we have seen in years. For nearly two weeks now, people have been watching her on the stand, watching, safe to say with slack-jawed amazement at the courtroom drama and the explicit testimony. We now know the things that she and her boyfriend did right up to the moment that she shot, stabbed and slashed him to death.
What no one knows, what the jury will decide is this, just who is this woman? Is she a murderer? Tonight, you can watch the testimony and decide for yourself.
Reporting tonight for us is 360's Randi Kaye -- Randi.
RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you, Anderson.
Jodi Arias, cold-blooded killer or long-suffering victim? We have been mesmerized by the twists and turn of this tragic tale of fatal attraction. Tonight, a killer in her own words as Jodi Arias fights to avoid paying the ultimate price.
We have to warn you, the testimony is graphic, both the images and the language, and may be too explicit for younger viewers.
KAYE (voice-over): Jodi Arias has sung a lot of different tunes since this picture of bliss turned into a bloodbath. It's a grisly tale of passion gone wrong, of sex, lies, and a life brutally cut short.
VINNIE POLITAN, HLN HOST: This is a case, this is a story, this is a criminal defendant unlike any other we have ever met before.
Jodi Arias, beautiful young woman, accused of brutally murdering her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander. As a matter of fact, the day that she admittedly killed him, they had sex, they took pictures, but then she stabbed him 29 times, almost decapitates him, shoots him in the head and she says it's self-defense.
But the prosecutor has a whole different theory here, that it was premeditated cold-blooded murder, because she was obsessed with Travis Alexander. KAYE: The end for Jodi and Travis was foul and heinous. But their courtship actually began quite innocently, in of all places, Sin City.
DAVID HUGHES, FRIEND OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER: We were there for a convention. Our company had had a big event there. I was there in Las Vegas with him.
KAYE: Travis Alexander was a motivational speaker and close friend and co-worker of David Hughes in the fall of 2006.
HUGHES: And I knew that he was single and he was always looking for Ms. Alexander.
KAYE: Enter saleswoman and aspiring photographer Jodi Arias.
HUGHES: And I told Travis, hey, there is this cute girl that I work with. You should meet her. And he goes, introduce me. So, I introduced them and then they were able to develop a relationship pretty quickly from there.
POLITAN: They met in Vegas. The night they met, it seemed that things heated up very quickly, because Jodi Arias has said within a week or so, they are having sex in a car.
KAYE: Jodi and Travis had an instant physical connection, a whirlwind romance, but a long-distance one with her in Palm Desert, California, and him five hours away in Mesa, Arizona. Still, that wouldn't slow them down.
Shanna Hogan, the author of "Picture Perfect," about the Jodi Arias case:
SHANNA HOGAN, AUTHOR, "PICTURE PERFECT": From the very beginning, Travis and Jodi were almost in constant communication. They talked every day. They exchanged thousands of e-mails and text messages.
KAYE: Jodi was so attracted to Travis, that she converted to the Church of Latter Day Saints because Travis was a Mormon.
HUGHES: She started to inquire more about the LDS faith, and ended up joining the church, which I'm sure that brought their relationship -- made it even stronger.
KAYE: To outsiders, Travis and Jodi appeared devout, a pure Mormon couple, but appearances, as was often the case with these two, would prove deceiving.
HOGAN: Secretly, behind the scenes, Travis and Jodi's relationship was not pure, it was not chaste. They had this intense sexual relationship that they kept hidden from everyone.
KAYE: But Jodi couldn't keep everything hidden, especially from Travis' longtime friends, many of whom found his new love a bit odd and a bit troubling. HUGHES: We don't like Jodi coming over to our home. We feel very uncomfortable with her in our home.
KAYE: David Hughes recalls a chilling encounter between his brother, his sister-in-law and Jodi Arias.
HUGHES: Well, they are having this conversation trying to convince Travis to break up with her, she is right outside the upstairs door listening to the whole conversation. And she walked in and she just had this face on like she was the devil, and she was going to commit a murder right then and there.
HOGAN: It was clear that she liked him a lot more than he liked her. Travis wanted a normal life. Jodi wanted to be with him more than anything. And it was an extremely unhealthy bond that they shared.
KAYE: And a normal healthy life was something Travis had wanted desperately since growing up in Riverside, California.
HOGAN: Travis' childhood was full of poverty, neglect, physical violence.
HUGHES: His parents were both addicted to drugs. And so he wasn't raised by his parents. He was eventually -- his grandmother is the one that raised him. But, yes, it was a tough upbringing.
KAYE: Jodi, too, has said she didn't have it easy growing up, that she was no stranger to abuse.
HOGAN: She grew up being very artistic. She played the flute. She had a lot of brothers and sisters and very close with them all. So Jodi's childhood was fairly ideal compared to Travis', but she does describe like incidences of physical violence.
KAYE: Though they had only known each other less than a year, Jodi and Travis had burned red-hot, at least for a while. By the summer of 2007, however, their relationship had cooled, in part because of Jodi's increasing jealousy over Travis' interest in other women.
HOGAN: Jodi went through his phone and discovered these flirty messages to other women, and she decided to end the relationship at that point. But ,at the same time, Travis was looking to end the relationship.
KAYE: Jodi and Travis did break up. But that didn't mean they weren't still friends with benefits.
HOGAN: Clearly, Jodi enjoyed her sexual life with Travis. But it must have been tormenting. In her diary, Jodi writes about how she loves Travis so fully and completely that she doesn't know any other way to be, that he was just her entire focus, and she was extremely obsessed with him.
KAYE: So obsessed, apparently, that Jodi never took her eye off of Travis, no matter how far apart they were.
HUGHES: I absolutely know that she was stalking him many times. Just like when she went in through the back door when he was kissing another girl on his couch, and she's spying on him. That's what is really happening there.
HOGAN: She slashed his tires. She broke into his e-mail account. She hacked into his Facebook page. She broke into his house and stole his journals. She read his diary. She just did these crazy stalking behaviors.
KAYE: Jodi has long denied stalking Travis, but there is no denying that their troubled relationship came to an abrupt end on June 4, 2008, when Jodi made her last visit to her estranged lover's home in the wee hours of the morning.
POLITAN: Travis is there, according to her, and he's online, and they go to sleep. But when they wake up, then they get back to what Travis and Jodi always do, which is engage in sex. And they didn't just engage in sex. They brought cameras into play, Travis taking pictures of Jodi, Jodi taking pictures of Travis, neither one of them wearing any clothes.
But it's what they do. It's what they have always done since they met.
KAYE: Coming up, a sex-fueled afternoon explodes into an orgy of violence.
KAYE (voice-over): Monday, June 9, 2008, 90 minutes until midnight in a Mesa, Arizona, community called Mountain Ranch. Nobody has heard from Travis Alexander in five days.
HOGAN: These friends meet at the house to try and determine Travis' whereabouts. Through another friend, they get the code to the garage. They go inside the house. It smells. There is a foul odor hanging in the air. Travis' roommate and his friend go inside the bedroom.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God.
911 OPERATOR: Nine-one-one emergency.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A friend of ours is dead in his bedroom. We hadn't heard from him for a while. His roommates just went in there and said there's lots of blood.
HOGAN: There's one light shining in that room, and it's coming from the master bathroom, and they see this horrific sight, this dead body and they see that it's Travis. His body was pale. His face marbled by discoloration and it was clear that he was dead and that Travis had been dead quite some time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's dead in the shower.
911 OPERATOR: OK.
KAYE: There is a massive amount of flood in Travis Alexander's master suite, soaked into the bedroom carpet and splattered all over the bathroom, the sink, the mirror, the floor.
911 OPERATOR: Has he been threatened by anyone recently?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, he has. He has an ex-girlfriend that's been bothering him and following him and slashing tires and things like that. Her name is Jodi.
HUGHES: As soon as we knew that Travis was murdered, we immediately knew it was Jodi. There was no -- no questions in our minds.
KAYE: Hours later, Jodi speaks with lead detective Esteban Flores on the telephone. And she does something that would become common in this case. She lies.
ESTEBAN FLORES, DETECTIVE: That was around April that you last saw him, right?
JODI ARIAS, DEFENDANT: Early April.
FLORES: You haven't been back in town since then?
ARIAS: No, I haven't at all.
KAYE: This is the first version of her story. She claims she's on a road trip to see a potential love interest in Utah when Travis is murdered.
HUGHES: The day after she had murdered Travis city, she's in Salt Lake City. I see her there in the parking lot. And we're talking and then she ends up hooking up with a guy who I work with as well, Ryan Burns, and like nothing ever happened.
KAYE: But investigators are able to place Jodi at the crime scene, thanks to a handprint, hair, and Travis' camera discovered in his washing machine.
BETH KARAS, TRUTV: Can you imagine when the police found the camera? And they said, oh, the camera is destroyed. It's been through the washing machine. But they take that little memory card and they find these photos. And Detective Flores got the call, you're not going to believe this, what we have got.
KAYE (on camera): The memory card survived the wash?
KARAS: The memory car card survived the wash.
KAYE (voice-over): Those photos lay out a timeline. At 5:30 p.m., Jodi uses the camera to take the last picture of Travis alive. He's in the shower.
KARAS: She's taking pictures of him, and probably said to him, oh, let me get a picture of you seated, because she needed to level the playing field. She's able to stab him in the heart.
KAYE: Investigators say there is a struggle in the bathroom and then Jodi follows Travis into his bedroom.
KARAS: He falls. Maybe he's on his hands and knees, and that's when she did the coup de grace across his neck and then turned him over and turned him around and dragged him down the hall.
KAYE: This is at 5:32 p.m. It is one of three accidental photos taken after the last shower picture. Prosecutors will later claim it's Jodi's leg over Travis' upper body as she prepares to drag him back to the shower. Travis' body has a total of 29 stab marks, including the slash across his neck, which is six inches and runs from ear to ear, and there is a .25-caliber gunshot wound over his right eyebrow.
KARAS: She mutilated him. That's why they are seeking death, not just premeditation, but the aggravating factor is cruelty, mental and physical anguish. This man suffered. He knew he was going to die.
KAYE (on camera): If he wasn't shot first, and he was stabbed, it took him some time to die?
KARAS: Yes, it took him some time to die.
KAYE: Which speaks to the cruelty.
KARAS: Which speaks to the cruelty.
KAYE (voice-over): A cruelty which Jodi continues to cover up three weeks after the murder.
FLORES: You never got to see the camera or anything?
KAYE: That's another lie in support of version one, that she hadn't visited Travis since April, that she hadn't seen or used his new camera. It's the same story she repeatedly tells Detective Flores after being indicted for first-degree murder.
FLORES: You were at Travis' house. You guys had a sexual encounter which -- there's pictures.
ARIAS: Are you sure those pictures aren't from another time?
FLORES: Positive, absolutely positive.
ARIAS: The truth is, I did not hurt Travis. OK? So we're...
FLORES: Jodi, you can it continue to do this, OK? A records check shows you have reported a gun stolen, .25 auto. Just happens to be the same caliber as the weapon used to kill him.
ARIAS: A .25 auto was used to kill Travis?
KAYE: During that same interview, there is this.
(on camera): What do you make of Jodi Arias doing yoga moves in her interrogation room?
KARAS: I couldn't believe it, because she is charged with first- degree murder, she's being interrogated and she is stretching like, oh, I just need to get a little more relaxed here.
POLITAN: I believe it tells that you Jodi Arias is trying to get comfortable in that room, and she's not able to get comfortable because she has to change her story, because investigators have more evidence than she thought they were going to have.
KAYE (voice-over): She would change her story to version two the very next day.
KARAS: She talked about two intruders coming into the house, and that they attacked Travis, and they're attacking her, and she gets wounded in the incident, and he's being stabbed and he's yelling and he's screaming and telling her go to the neighbors and get help.
ARIAS: They didn't discuss much. They just argued.
FLORES: About what?
ARIAS: About whether or not to kill me.
FLORES: For what reason?
ARIAS: Because I'm a witness.
FLORES: A witness to what?
ARIAS: Him, of Travis.
FLORES: Of Travis' murder?
KAYE: She takes version two to the court of public opinion a couple of months after her arrest on the nationally syndicated show "Inside Edition."
ARIAS: I witnessed Travis being attacked by two other individuals.
ARIAS: I don't know who they were. I couldn't pick them out in a police lineup.
KAYE: And then on the CBS show "48 Hours."
ARIAS: They kept arguing back and forth whether or not to kill me. He pulled the trigger and nothing happened with the gun, and so I just grabbed my purse, which was on the floor at that point and I ran downstairs and out of there.
KAYE: And once she goes public with version two, she makes this bold prediction.
ARIAS: No jury is going to convict me.
QUESTION: Why not?
ARIAS: Because I'm innocent, and you can mark my words on that one.
KAYE: She says that before the world ever hears version three.
HOGAN: She sits in jail for a year-and-a-half, and now she changes her story once again.
KAYE: In 2010, two years after the murder, Jodi's lawyer files a court document indicating Jodi will finally admit to killing Travis.
HOGAN: She killed Travis, but it was in self-defense. And he came after her, and she defended herself and she had to kill Travis or she would have been killed.
KAYE: That same year, the one where she admits stabbing Travis Alexander multiple times, there is this angelic performance.
(on camera): Tell me what you know about this Christmas carol inmate idol?
KARAS: She participated and won the contest. It's just -- it's kind of surreal, because she Purports to be so religious and so godly, and she's singing this wonderful Christmas carol hymn, and then I think, wow. You know, she almost cut this guy's head off.
KAYE (voice-over): Ahead, sex, lies and all the sordid details.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The state of Arizona vs. Jodi Ann Arias, indictment, count one, first-degree murder, premeditated murder.
KAYE (voice-over): January 2, a trial more than four years in the making finally begins.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is not a case of whodunit. The person who done it, the person who committed this killing sits in court today. It's the defendant, Jodi Ann Arias.
KARAS: Jodi Arias was very confident that first day.
KAYE: "In Session"'s Beth Karas has been in the courtroom every day of the trial.
(on camera): What was the forensic evidence that the prosecution said linked Jodi Arias to the crime scene?
KARAS: Blood, fingerprints, palm print, and hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jodi loved Travis. And so what would have forced her to have to take Travis' life on that awful day?
KAYE (voice-over): The defense team argued that a lifetime of physical and mental abuse by family and boyfriends had reached a tipping point for Jodi Arias.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And on June 4, 2008, it had reached a point of no return. And, sadly, Travis left Jodi no other option but to defend herself. On that horrible day, Jodi believed that Travis was going to kill her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you speak to how much contact you have had with Ms. Arias?
KAYE: The defense began with a friend of Jodi's.
GUS SEARCY, FRIEND OF JODI: Probably a minimum of once a week, we would touch base with each other. She was always very well-spoken, a bit little timid, a little bit shy.
KAYE: A former boyfriend.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know Jodi because we were in love.
KAYE: And even friends of Travis.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did Travis treat Jodi when it was just the four of you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Very well.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what do you mean by very well? What did he do?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They just seemed happy to be with each other, like very cuddly and very much a couple.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please be seated. The record will show the presence of the jury, defendant and all counsel.
KAYE: Then, on the trial's 14th day, a deceptive routinely order from the judge.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to ask that you go back to the jury room for approximately three minutes and then return.
Ms. Arias, can you come forward and take a seat please?
KARAS: All of a sudden, I see Jodi Arias walking across the courtroom to the witness stand.
KAYE: Minutes later, as they file back in, an extraordinary moment for jurors, seeing without warning the accused gazing at them from the witness stand.
KARAS: Well, jurors filed in, and are used to seeing her sitting over at counsel table, and it took a second to realize she is in the witness box. She's going to be telling her story.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are going to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
ARIAS: Yes, I do.
I'm not guilty. I didn't hurt Travis. I turned around and there are two people there. One was a guy, one was a girl.
KAYE: After having told investigators two different stories of her innocence, now Jodi admitted under oath she was a killer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008?
ARIAS: Yes, I did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?
ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me, and I defended myself.
KAYE: Jodi testified that while Travis made her fear for her life, he wasn't the first to abuse her.
KARAS: It appears their strategy was that everything happened in her life from her childhood and through all of the relationships with men culminated in this killing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your life was pretty ideal up until about age 7. Was something different after age 7 or...
ARIAS: I think that is the first year my dad started using a belt.
KAYE: Jodi told the court that her brawny father inflicted great pain and so did her mother.
ARIAS: My mom began to carry a wooden spoon in her purse. If we were misbehaving, she would use it on us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean by use it on you?
ARIAS: She would hit us with it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She hit you hard?
ARIAS: It felt pretty hard, yes.
KAYE: She said those spankings by her mother and father left welts and painful memories.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did you feel when your own mother was beating you?
ARIAS: When I was younger, I remember feeling -- I didn't have a word for it then, but I can describe it as betrayed and confused.
And as I got a little bit older, it would just really make me bad, because I just -- I didn't get why.
POLITAN: The part of her life that we learned a lot about from her testimony was her teenage years, and apparently a troubled teenager. She has got some problems with her he parents. Whose fault is it? Do we know?
But the result of that is that she gets punished, and instead of being grounded for three months at age 17, she decides to move out. She decides to drop out, and she decides to move in with her boyfriend.
KAYE: Jodi portrayed herself as someone who made a string of bad choices when it came to men. Describing one abusive relationship after another, especially Travis Alexander, admitting that she loved him, despite his being what she described as being demeaning, physically abusive and controlling. Even when she converted to his Mormon faith.
POLITAN: At the beginning of her experience in the Mormon religion, it's been a real sordid double life.
KAYE: A somber Jodi recalled that the day Travis baptized her, what was supposed to be a new beginning turned out to be more of the same.
ARIAS: I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. The kissing got more passionate and more intense, and then he spun me around. And he bent me over the bed, and he was just on top of me. I didn't think anything -- I thought he was going to keep kissing me. He began to have anal sex with me, and...
NURMI: After this encounter, on this spiritual day, how did you feel about yourself?
ARIAS: After he left -- shortly after he left, I felt -- I didn't feel very good. I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.
KAYE: For Travis's sister and other relatives, Jodi's explicit testimony was difficult to hear. Family and friends have maintained that much of it is lies, that Travis never mistreated her.
DAVID HUGHES, FRIEND OF TRAVIS: Travis was a great guy. He was very nice, very kind, very considerate. What the defense is portraying is absolutely not accurate.
NURMI: Do me a favor and take a look at this exhibit and see if you recognize it.
KAYE: But her attorney presented text messages from Travis, appearing to treat Jodi as his sex slave.
NURMI: He says that this photo shoot is going to be one of the best experiences of your life and his. And he talks about all the pictures he's going to take of you.
And he says, "the progressiveness of it from the very clean to the very dirty and everything in between." He also says, "You'll rejoice in being a whore that's sole purpose in life is to be mine to have animal sex with and to please me in any way I desire."
POLITAN: Secretly, they're having this life that is very sexual. I mean, it is the basis and really almost the entire part of what their relationship is about.
ARIAS: He wanted me to put Pop Rocks in my mouth while he -- while I gave him oral sex.
NURMI: And did you do that?
NURMI: And the Tootsie Pops, what did they turn out to be needed for?
ARIAS: He wanted to put the Tootsie Pop inside of me.
KAYE: The jurors even heard Travis' voice as he had phone sex with Jodi.
TRAVIS ALEXANDER, MURDER VICTIM (via phone): That was so hot. That actually, so like the way you moan, it's sounds like -- sounds like you're a 12-year-old girl having her first orgasm. That's so hot.
KAYE: They also took very explicit nude photos. Including this, the last one of Travis Alexander alive. Next, murder and a memory lapse.
ARIAS: What I finally came to, I saw there was blood on my hands.
ARIAS: I kind of felt like -- like a prostitute sort of.
KAYE: Day after day...
ARIAS: He pulled down my underwear.
KAYE: ... detail after graphic detail. ARIAS: Called me a bitch and kicked me in the ribs.
KAYE: But on the 7th day, Jodi Arias' testimony wasn't just sex and violence; it was finally what everyone had waited for. Her killing of Travis Alexander.
NURMI: Do you remember about what time you arrived in Mesa?
ARIAS: It was still dark, but it was early morning, maybe around 4-ish.
KAYE: She took the jury through her memory of the rest of that fateful day. How Travis snapped photos of her, provocative and intimate.
NURMI: What do you think about when you see that picture?
ARIAS: What a stupid idiot I was.
NURMI: Why did you participate?
ARIAS: He got a new camera, and he was excited about it and wanted to play around with it.
KAYE: Jodi said later that afternoon, they were in Travis's home office when he asked for copies of their vacation photos that she had on CDs.
ARIAS: I got the CDs out. They looked pretty scratched, which he noticed and got upset about, because it was my fault that they were scratched.
So now he was able to bring up the CD on his screen, and most of the images came up as little gray squares instead of photos. And I went to walk over to him to rub his back or something, to make sure he was OK, and let him know that I still had the pictures on my other drive. I was going to apologize, and he stood up, and the chair got pushed to the side. And he spun me around and bent me over the desk and pressed up against me.
NURMI: At that point in time, did you want to have sex with Mr. Alexander?
ARIAS: Well, yes, actually I did. It was better than him getting mad. I was actually relieved.
POLITAN: Well, she is claiming that, No. 1, she just wanted to please him. "I keep him happy and then he's not mad. If he gets mad at me, then he slashes out and gets really, really angry. And then if Travis didn't get angry, I would have sex with him, and then he would turn back into the nice Travis."
KAYE: After having sex, Jodi said that she agreed to take photos of Travis in the shower with his new camera. According to Jodi, it would lead to a fatal altercation.
ARIAS: As I moved the camera, it slipped out of my hand, and it landed on the mat. And then it rolled onto its side.
NURMI: So what happens after you drop the camera?
ARIAS: At that point, Travis flipped out again. He stood up, and he stepped out of the shower and he picked me up as he was screaming that I was a stupid idiot. And he body-slammed me again on the tile. He told me that a 5-year-old can hold a camera better than I can.
When I hit the tile, I rolled over on the side and started running down the hallway. So I ran into the closet, and I slammed the door. And as soon as I got in there, I began to run, I remembered where he kept the gun.
POLITAN: There is zero evidence, independent evidence, evidence other than words out of Jodi Arias' mouth, that established Travis Alexander as a gun owner. There is none.
ARIAS: I grabbed the gun. I ran out of the closet. He was chasing me. I turned around. We were in the middle of the bathroom, pointed it at him with both of my hands. I thought that would stop him. If someone were pointing a gun at me, I would stop.
But he just kept running. He got like a linebacker. He got kind of low and grabbed my waist. But before that, as he was lunging at me, the gun went off.
BETH KARAS, CORRESPONDENT, TRUTV'S "IN SESSION": And the angle of the wound, the bullet, is from here, and it lodges in his left check. It might have bounced around in his head. It might have gone down straight. It doesn't exit. So she's over him.
ARIAS: And I didn't know that I shot him. It just went off, and he was -- he lunged at me and we fell really hard against the tile toward the other wall. So he's grabbing at my clothes, and I got up, and he's just screaming and angry.
POLITAN: The medical examiners testified that the gunshot wound would have debilitated Travis Alexander if it happened first. But he believes it happened after he was already dead. So if it happened first, according to the expert, the medical examiner, Travis Alexander wouldn't have been able to do anything, let alone chase Jodi Arias around the house like she claims.
KAYE: When Travis's body was found in the shower, there was only one gunshot wound, but almost 30 knife wounds, and he'd nearly been decapitated. An unforgettable scene that Jodi claims she doesn't remember.
NURMI: Do you remember stabbing Travis Alexander?
ARIAS: I have no memory of stabbing him.
I was in the bathroom, and I remember dropping the knife, and it clanged to the tile. It made a big noise, and I just remember screaming. I don't remember anything after that. There's a lot of that day I don't remember. There are a lot of gaps. Like I don't know if I blacked out or what. There's a huge gap.
KARAS: Wow. Next thing you know, she's in the desert driving, and she's got blood on her hands. It is her blood or is it Travis's blood? Does she know what she did? She thinks she knows what she did. She throws the gun away in the desert. She doesn't say where. And then she stops to clean up her hands, and she realizes she did something wrong and her life is probably over. And she starts covering her tracks. This is her story.
JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: You said that many times.
KAYE: Coming up, the prosecutor goes on the attack.
MARTINEZ: Can you imagine how much you must have hurt Mr. Alexander when you stuck that knife right into his chest? That really must have hurt, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection. Argumentative.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sustained.
MARTINEZ: Are you a medical doctor?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I'm not.
KAYE: This is Maricopa County prosecutor Juan Martinez.
MARTINEZ: You could tell us what you thought Dr. Horn (ph) said, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
MARTINEZ: And you told us what you thought he said, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I did.
MARTINEZ: Were you correct?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I was not.
KAYE: Martinez is known for his ferocity in court.
POLITAN: He's got one speed, and it's pedal to the metal.
KARAS: He doesn't take any B.S. from any witness, even his own. He started going after some of his own witnesses.
KAYE: Like the lead detective in the Jodi Arias trial.
MARTINEZ: Did you talk to her in anticipation of that hearing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
MARTINEZ: And did she give you anything that you incorporated?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, a few.
MARTINEZ: And still you went ahead with what you thought was your opinion, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
KAYE: So it came as no surprise...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. Martinez, you may cross-examine the witness.
KAYE: ... that he was on the attack from the very beginning of his questioning of Jodi Arias.
ARIAS (via phone): She's freaking messed up.
KAYE: Using her own hurtful words from earlier in the trial.
ARIAS (via phone): She's still so innocent. I think she's just stupid. I love the girl. She's my sister, but honestly, like she's a little bit dumb.
KAYE: Throwing those words back in Jodi's face.
MARTINEZ: And that's a picture of you, correct? Right here. And the other one is a picture of your dumb sister, Angela, correct?
ARIAS: That's my sister. She's not dumb.
KAYE: What do you think Juan Martinez thinks of Jodi Arias?
KARAS: I think that Juan Martinez thinks Jodi Arias is an evil woman, sociopath, psychopath. I'm not sure what the diagnosis is. But this is a woman who should never walk the streets again.
MARTINEZ: You said that, right?
What right do you have to do that?
You seem to have a double standard here.
KAYE: Martinez has been relentless in trying to unravel the story of Jodi, the story of an abuse victim that the defense had presented to the jury.
KARAS: She claims that her disfigured ring finger on her left hand was caused by Travis Alexander in a domestic violence incident.
NURMI: Could you hold up your hand for us so we can see?
KAYE: She'd shone her still-crooked finger to the jury. But Martinez confronted her with this picture, no bent finger, taken months after the alleged incident.
MARTINEZ: You don't have a bent finger here in exhibit 453, do you?
ARIAS: My finger is bent there.
MARTINEZ: You're saying that your finger is bent there?
KAYE: Martinez was on a mission to expose what he presented as Jodi's litany of lies to friends, family and police.
MARTINEZ: So you were thinking more of yourself when you made this statement to this detective, right?
ARIAS: I'm not sure about that.
MARTINEZ: Well, other than you, who would be sure about your statements?
MARTINEZ: Well, God's not here. We can't subpoena him, right?
ARIAS: I don't think so.
MARTINEZ: You don't think so. Are you sure that we can't, because it seems like are you leaving the door open for that?
NURMI: Objection, relevance.
POLITAN: So now it's almost like a dad having an argument with his teenage daughter, and the teenage daughter just -- just won't answer the question, won't admit what dad knows.
ARIAS: That's not correct.
MARTINEZ: Well, that's what you said, though, right?
ARIAS: No, that's what you said.
POLITAN: And that's the dynamic in the courtroom. It's absolutely fascinating.
MARTINEZ: Is that what you were doing when you were lying?
KARAS: One of the things Juan Martinez wants to do is ask her questions about details. And she's afraid to give him details, because she doesn't know what he has to contradict her. So we're hearing a lot of "I don't know, I don't remember, I'm not sure, I don't know." Over and over again.
MARTINEZ: Did you or did you not indicate that you loved your mother? I'm not asking you if you loved your mother. I'm asking you if you indicated it. ARIAS: I don't remember.
MARTINEZ: Do you have problems with your memory, ma'am?
MARTINEZ: You can tell us, for example, what type of sex you had with Mr. Alexander many years ago, but you're having trouble telling us what you said a couple of days ago?
ARIAS: When I'm under stress, yes, it affects my memory.
MARTINEZ: I thought you said your relationship with Mr. Alexander was very stressful.
ARIAS: Some of the sex wasn't.
KAYE: Jodi pushed back and even blamed Martinez's in-your-face cross-examination for confusing her.
MARTINEZ: What factors influence your having a memory problem?
ARIAS: Usually when men like you are screaming at me or grilling me or someone like Travis doing the same.
MARTINEZ: So that affects your memory? Right?
ARIAS: It does. It makes my brain scramble.
KAYE (on camera): She didn't fall apart on the stand. She didn't crumble.
KAYE (voice-over): Until...
MARTINEZ: Take a look at this, please. Where were you taking the photographs when this happened? I want to see it on this exhibit.
ARIAS: Outside the shower.
ARIAS: Outside the shower.
MARTINEZ: Well, why don't you put a mark on there.
Ma'am, were you crying while you were shooting him?
ARIAS: I don't remember.
MARTINEZ: Were you crying when you were stabbing him?
ARIAS: I don't remember.
MARTINEZ: How about when you cut his throat? Were you crying then?
ARIAS: I don't know.
MARTINEZ: So take a look, then. And you're the one that did this, right?
MARTINEZ: And you're the same individual that lied about all of this, right?
POLITAN: I think Martinez has her right where he wants her. He's got her on the witness stand. I mean, that's where he wants her. An opportunity to ask her anything he wants and get in front of the jury: "Jodi Arias, can you believe what she's saying? Can you believe what she's saying?"
He has her in a position where she can't be protected anymore. She has to answer his questions.
MARTINEZ: Isn't it true that the statements are different? All I'm asking.
ARIAS: Yes, they are different.
MARTINEZ: I don't have anything else. Thank you.
KAYE: And with that, prosecutor Juan Martinez abruptly ended his grilling and gripping cross-examination of Jodi Arias. But she's not done testifying.
KAYE: This coming week, Jodi Arias is expected to be back on the witness stand, answering questions from her attorneys as they try to repair any damage they think was caused by the prosecutor's withering cross-examination.
Then it's the jury's turn, because in Arizona, jurors are given the chance to question witnesses.
Thanks for watching this AC 360 special report. More on the trial ahead on AC 360 -- Anderson.