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Two OU Fraternity Chanters Expelled; Latest Secret Service Scandal; Ferguson Police Chief Resigns; Deputy U.S. Marshal Killed on the Job; Rep. Aaron Schock Investigated for Lavish Spending
Aired March 11, 2015 - 20:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Hey, good evening. Thanks for joining us.
A very full night ahead starting with four words, secret service and not again. Yes. Another embarrassing incident from the outfit that let the guy jump the fence and run for the White House and let someone else to take pot shots in the official resident. And someone else fly a drone on to the grounds of the White House.
Another incident from the agency that just replaced its director and appeared to be cleaning house. Now, this latest chapter involves two agents, their car wreck at the White House allegedly booze.
Michelle Kosinski not far from the crash site, otherwise known as the White House north lawn.
Michelle, I mean, it's pretty incredible the details that emerging so far. What's the latest you are hearing?
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Right. Well, keep in mind, the secret service isn't confirming any of these details that have come out in the story by "the Washington Post." They broke the story. But the secret service isn't disputing any of these facts either.
So what the article is saying is that about a week ago on March 4th, these two top agents, I mean, one of them was the number two agent in the president's protective detail and the other was the supervisor. They were coming back from a party, a work party. The retirement of the spokesperson of the secret service. There is an allegation that they were drinking at the party. and there was an investigation going on, a suspicious package.
Well, inexplicably, according to this article, they showed their badges but then drove right through the tape and crashed their government car into a temporary barricade that had been set up.
To make this even stranger, the allegation is also that officers at the scene there did not only want to arrest these agents but also test them if they're sober or not but the supervisor at the team ordered that they'd be allowed to go on, Anderson.
COOPER: So uniformed officers at the scene were the ones who wanted to give them an alcohol test? KOSINSKI: Yes, exactly. It's unclear if those were officers within
the secret service, were they park service? I mean, both of these are patrolling around the White House. But that's what the article alleges. The secret service isn't confirming anything or giving any more detail.
They're only saying that as of now, these two agents, who by the way, have been named publicly in the "Washington Post" article have been reassigned. So they are not supervisors anymore. It's a non- operational capacity as the secret service puts it. And they're not saying it's temporary, pending the outcome of the investigation. In fact, they are saying not to say that, although, still, they are not confirming this is a permanent reassignment either.
What it is, it seems like another embarrassment, possibly another full blown scandal for the secret service, Anderson.
COOPER: And I mean, in the past, when something happened, often, we did not, the public did not get statements from the secret service or the full account of the secret service until much later on. When the guy ran into the White House, turns out he made it into the east room, as I remember.
KOSINSKI: Yes. And I mean, that's the worry here too. That this is only coming out now where this incident happened on March 4th. This is the first we're hearing of any detail about this. So why the secret service doesn't put out some kind of, I don't know, press release, saying FYI, this has been sent to investigation. The department of homeland security is now handling this.
This is a pretty high level incident. It's bearing a high level investigation but we're still not getting much information at all from the secret service, unfortunately.
COOPER: Fascinating. Michelle Kosinski, appreciate it. Thank you.
Joining us now is Carol Leonnig of the "Washington Post" who Michelle just said, actually broke this story, also CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant director Tom Fuentes and on the phone is former secret agent, Jonathan Wackrow, a 13-year veteran of the service including four years of President Obama. He knows the two agents involved, the least today we are not naming.
So Carol, what additional details do you have on the sequence of events? I mean, Have the agents finished their shift at the White House and then gone to this party? Do we know?
CAROL LEONNIG, REPORTER, WASHINGTON POST: We don't know if they were on duty or not, but you would presume that people going to a retirement party at a bar in downtown Washington were pretty much done for the night. My information from sources is that they were returning from this party fairly late, somewhere around 10:00, 10:30 at night. Went back to get one of the government cars. I believe one of them, Mr. Ovalbee, is driving out of the White House compound kind of near 15th street according to the sources that have talked to us about this, when he comes across a barrier where secret service officers and the metropolitan police department are canvassing and securing a scene because of a suspicious package that they're worried about.
And again, according to the sources, the allegations that are under investigation are that these two gentlemen appeared intoxicated, were behaving in an erratic fashion. That's not known at this point whether they were or they weren't, but the reports from the scene were that they were behaving strangely enough that officers both from the secret service and the metropolitan police department were sort of scratching their heads saying, this looks funny, what's going on here?
COOPER: And, I mean, Michelle was saying it's not clear who wanted to give a breathalyzer. Is that your understanding, was it secret service agents that wanted to give their fell secret service agents a breathalyzer or was it a uniformed officer?
LEONNIG: Well, keep in mind, the secret service officers who are sort of the pad list guards, if you will, for the White House complex, they don't necessarily view themselves necessarily as the brethren of the secret service agents, agents, special agents often, and the officers are sort of, officers feel they're a second redheaded stepsister, stepchild, in the agency and they often view the agents as an elite group that view themselves a little bit more high and mighty.
So that's an issue for the service to deal with, and for director Clancy to deal with too. But our information is that officers on the scene, secret service officers, were the ones wondering, should we be testing these guys and arresting them for what's happened here?
Keep in mind, as many readers and viewers have mentioned to me, that in 2013, when a civilian ran a temporary barricade, a very different situation, much more aggressive situation and worrisome one. But when a civilian did that, she was chased by police and shot at.
COOPER: And Jonathan, you were on the president's secret service detail, I understand you know the two agents in question, again, who we're not naming at this time. What do you make of all this?
JONATHAN WACKROW, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, I mean, first of all, the two agents, and I just want to go back to what Michelle stated, the secret service isn't releasing any facts. So what I hope that rumor is not preceding the facts in this case. But taking what Carol has stated and what's been reported, I mean, it looks like these agents, you know, made a fatal error in judgment, if the facts are true.
COOPER: But Jonathan, why wouldn't the secret service release some facts? I mean, it's been now quite a while and, you know, nothing is wrong with transparency.
WACKROW: No, absolutely nothing is wrong with transparency and I think that's what a lot of people have been calling for with Joe Clancy now installed as the new director. But you know, facts take a little while to develop and they're not always as clear as black and white. There's a totality of circumstances that go on. You have to look at what was going on at that time. At the time the White House was in an elevated state, they were in an elevated condition because of an incident that was ongoing. So the attention by the officers, whether it was the uniform division or the metropolitan police, was focused on the initial incident, not these two agents at the time. So separating the facts in this case may take a little bit of time.
COOPER: Tom Fuentes, what about that? I mean, to the point that carol made, you know, somebody else, a civilian running a barricade, you know, gets shot and killed, and from my memory, police are relatively quick to release details on what they knew and what exactly happened. Why is it different for law enforcement?
TOM FUENTES, FORMER FBI ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR: Well, one reason it's different is that the people involved in this are not killed, and they're still alive and under investigation. And, you know, the transparency could have been that the secret service announced that they had an incident, who was involved, they're placed on leave or reassigned temporarily for now, while the department of homeland security office and inspector general conducts the investigation.
Then you would have no real transparency during the course of the investigation. And that will probably include finding every person that was at the original party to try and determine what they were drinking, how much they drank, take signed and sworn statements there from the party and the White House, the entire incident that happened, the driving through the barricade, the witness statements of each of the officers.
So it's going to be a little bit of an involved investigation and probably during that time, you know, there won't be a lot of transparency. And I'd like to add. The inspector general's office will not be under the control in any way, shape, or form of the director of the secret service. So that's, you know, they're under the control of the department of homeland security and Congress and it will be an independent investigation to look into this misconduct.
COOPER: Tom Fuentes, I appreciate you being on. Carol Leonnig, as well, thanks for your reporting. And former secret service agent Jonathan Wackrow.
Now to Ferguson. Just days after the justice department report on racist policing in the department, but months after the first call for his firing, police chief Thomas Jackson has today resigned. He's leaving next Thursday. He walks away with severance money and health benefits from a department depicted in the DOJ report as a kind of revenue collecting operation working with the local court system to separate people, mainly African-American people from their money. Chief Jackson was not on hand for a news conference at city hall late today. Ferguson mayor, James Knowles, had this to say.
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MAYOR JAMES KNOWLES, FERGUSON, MISSOURI: To Ferguson residents, business owners, and to the entire country, the city of Ferguson looks to become an example of how a community can move forward in the face of adversity. We are committed to keeping our police department and having one that exhibits the highest degree of professionalism and fairness.
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COOPER: Joining us now, Sara Sidner, who spent long hours trying to get answers from chief Jackson very recently, as a matter of fact.
It certainly seems like this was a long time coming.
SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, for a lot of people, they've been asking for his resignation. Not everyone in the community. There are those who still want him to stay. But those who have been out on a daily basis protesting, one of the first thing they asked for was for Chief Jackson to step down. They asked for other city leaders to step down, but he was the number one target.
COOPER: It was really his handling in those early days which received so much criticism.
SIDNER: Absolutely. Some of the mistakes were made which later he come back and said, you know, I probably shouldn't have done this -- this way. This might have been wrong, when, for example, the department, at his behest, put out the video of Michael Brown. Before they had been relates or at the same time, they released to the officer. No one knew that name for almost a week and everyone was saying, with everything justified, why aren't you releasing the name of the officer? They did that and then they put out pictures of Michael Brown at the convenience store, you know, taking the cigarillos and pushing the clerk. And all that happened at once. And people felt like wait a minute, you're victimizing the victim here.
COOPER: It was interesting though. When that DOJ report came out, you know, the mayor, who's a part-time official, he had to go out and gave the press conference and the police chief was nowhere to be seen. And you would think of anybody who has some questions to answer about what's in that report, it would be the chief of police. And I mean, you followed him to his car, you tried to get him to talk. He basically said, I'm, you know, still analyzing it.
SIDNER: Right. I'm still analyzing it and I'll let you know. Well, he has let us know. He has now resigned. But what's interesting, Anderson, is that, chief, the city manager, two officers, a captain and a sergeant, a county clerk, the clerk of the courts all are gone. All of them, by the way, are mentioned in that report. The mayor is not mentioned in that report. The city manager and chief were expressly mentioned because their emails were mentioned in the report.
So what you're seeing now is that one by one, those whose names and whose emails are in that report, they are going whether it's resigning, four resigned and one was fired.
COOPER: And he get severance what, for a year?
SIDNER: He gets severance for a year and he gets insurance for a year. So does the city manager. The city manager is also, we heard in that press conference from the mayor, that he also gets severance for one year. COOPER: And they say they're now going to have a nationwide hunt for
a new police chief. We'll see what happens and whether there is fundamental change in an overwhelming white department in 67 percent African-American community.
Sara Sidner, thank you.
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Coming up next, will more University of Oklahoma frat brothers get expelled for this racist chant? I asked college president David Boren in his first national interview since kicking two of these kids out. He joins me coming up.
And later, what could be a big come down for the high living congressman next for Aaron Schock, the one with the Downton-Abbey inspired office and Kathy Perry concerts and trips on private jets? Taxpayers, by the way, footed the bill. See what happened when we tried to ask the congressman to account for it all.
COOPER: A different kind of protest today at the University of Oklahoma. The sun came up on prospect of (INAUDIBLE). Their mouths covered in duct tape with unheard written on them. Tape in the words symbolic, protesters say, what they claim is long standing silence at OU about racism on campus.
In a moment, the university president who says that silence simply is not an option. However, today, the sigma alpha epsilon national organization said the racist chant that got the local chapter closed, and two members expelled was actually nothing new. That this had been sung by SAE brothers for three or four years.
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FRATERNITY MEMBERS: There will never be a (bleep) at SAE. There will never be a (bleep) at SAE. You can hang them from a tree, but they'll never sign with me. There will never be a (bleep) at SAE.
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COOPER: Well, as you know, two frat brothers have been expelled from OU, including the one that (INAUDIBLE) you just saw. More expulsions could be coming. We spoke earlier tonight with the man who ordered them, university president and U.S. senator David Boren.
COOPER: So president Boren, SEA just put out a statement saying that this racist chant heard on that tape has been used at their chapter at your university for three to four years. I'm wondering what your reaction to that is.
DAVID BOREN, PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA: Well, I'm really shocked about that. And we're hearing rumors that it's been used at other chapters as well. It might have been sung at national conventions and national meetings at the fraternity.
You know, it's very hard in this day and time because the outside world are (INAUDIBLE) upon us. When Ferguson happens, it upsets our students. When things happen in other places, they bring those things from the rest of society in here. So that it makes it even harder to deal with these kinds of situations. But we've been hearing rumors that it's been here. We haven't known about it at all. And all, I guess it's been kept under wraps and that it's been other places as well. And that's deeply disturbing.
COOPER: Do you expect there will be more disciplinary action beyond the two young man so far?
BOREN: Yes, I do. We're collecting names and information. The video is a little hard to see, but we're going to get the names of the other individuals from SAE who were on the bus. We're looking at the responsibility of chapter leaders, officers of the fraternity to see if they're responsible for teaching it to new students in the fraternity. And once we get all of that information together and we analyze it and also look at the law, I do anticipate that we will be taking additional appropriate action at the right time.
COOPER: Perhaps more expulsion?
BOREN: It could be more expulsions, there could be suspensions. You know, in a case like this, we have to be very careful and look at the individual rights of every person that might have been involved. I think we really think we have to show in the strongest possible terms, even in our social conversations, we're not going to put up with racist comments, racist jokes. We've got to stop. It's an epidemic in this country. And we celebrates Selma and we think that those kind of things are over with and yet we see it.
They may be more subtle. They may be in different forms. But we see the same kind of racism in our current society. And I don't think it's going to stop until all of us, individually and collectively say, not with us, not my presence, not while I'm here, you're not going to do things like that.
COOPER: Well, I mean, you're in a difficult spot. Because I mean, I have talked to some civil rights attorney and sort of say, look, as abhorrent as what these students said, what they said is actually protected by the first amendment. And that by being expelled, these students are essentially having their constitutional rights violated. To that, what do you say?
BOREN: Well, Anderson, I don't think so at all. We were very careful from the very beginning and section 6, title of the civil rights act of 1964, provides that when you create a hostile learning environment, that's a misuse of your free speech. And ACLU representatives in our state today indicated strong support for our actions. We provided due process in the expulsion letters, for example, that I sent to the two students that have already received them. We've provided a process. You are hereby notified, you're expelled. You come to the EEO office and they contact that office within a certain number of days. And if you want it to be heard, if you want to bring your attorney, if you want to tell us why your action is contested by you, or deemed inappropriate, you'll have due process opportunity to do that.
So I'm a great believer in free speech, even at times when you abuse free speech. And then I think we have to use our own free speech to condemn it. But in this case, you're creating a very hostile educational environment that's right on all fours with the civil rights act. And I think we've struck the appropriate balance here.
COOPER: Even though the speech itself took place off campus, on a bus, not in an educational setting, per se?
BOREN: I think so because it's chartered by the university, in other words, we charter that chapter and it has an affiliation with the university. So I think that we can't close our eyes and say, well, it's not officially on the campus, and so therefore we can't do anything about it because it greatly impacts every student and obviously kids on the bus. Every student in our campus, every faculty members, staff members, all of us read it, all of us heard it, all of us are affected by it. And I think that does create a hostile environment.
If you can see the tears that have been shed by those who really suffered pain because of those expressions, hang somebody by a tree. I mean, I thought we wouldn't hear that again in America ever. And then we'll never sign them, we're going to exclude them. Those are things we just can't allow. And I don't think that's constitutionally protecting speech. We give due process, but at the same time, we can't put up with it. We have to take action to snuff it out right away.
COOPER: President Boren, I do appreciate your time. Thank you.
BOREN: Thank you so much, Anderson.
COOPER: President and former senator Boren.
One final note. We wanted to get SAE's reaction to president Boren's answer about rumors, as he called it, of other chapters around the country using that racist chant and being sung at SAE's national convention. SAE responded with this.
Quote "the president's use of the word rumors is problematic because rumors and stories change as they are told one minute to the next. A rumor is not fact. Regardless, we continue to investigate where and how this racist chant from the video made its way into our fraternity statement."
Yes, denial? Not exactly. We will continue to follow it.
Just ahead, the search for wreckage and remains after a military chopper goes down with foggy conditions in the Florida panhandle.
Also tonight, a CNN exclusive never seen before photos of Osama bin Laden before the 9/11 attacks. This is secrets revealed and documents recovered by SEAL Team Six, the night he was killed when we continue.
COOPER: A somber mission tonight in the Florida panhandle. A crew conducting search operations after an army helicopter crashed with seven marines and four soldiers on board. The black hawk was first reported missing in foggy conditions last night in the area near Eglin air force base. A short time later, debris washed up on local beaches along with some human remains.
Elizabeth Cohen is near Eglin air base. She joins us now.
Obviously, an incredibly difficult day there. What's the latest on the search?
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, it has been a very difficult day. Talking to members of the military, you can just see it on their faces. It's been 23 hours since the black hawk helicopter went down. And unfortunately, they've had to suspend the helicopter part of the search and rescue. They do still have three coast guard vessels in the water still actively doing search and rescue.
And meanwhile, the Louisiana National Guard and also the marines have been out there informing families that their loved ones are missing. Now, we do know, Anderson, that all of these men were told that very experienced at what they did, that they do these kind of training exercises all the time, one after another here in Elgin. So it's really not clear what went wrong.
One detail that we do know is that the training exercise involved taking men from the helicopter and putting them on the boat and then lifting them back up to the helicopter. So these helicopters were quite low down to the water.
COOPER: Is it clear, I mean, whether the conditions were very foggy, do we know if that in any way contributed to the crash?
COHEN: You know, they haven't said what they think caused the crash. And they won't say, we think the fog might have been a part of it. It's hard to believe though, Anderson, that the fog wasn't a part of it. It was heavy last night. It continues to be heavy. You can see it here today. We had difficulty flying down here today because of the fog. It's hard to believe that it didn't play a role.
COOPER: Just horrible for their families and friends.
Elizabeth, thanks very much.
Tonight, an exclusive new look at Osama bin Laden before 9/11 and in the months leading up to his death at the hands of SEAL Team Six. Documents found it at the compound the night he was killed, paint a picture of a man in fear, picture that in stark contrast to never before seen photos of bin Laden from 1996 which have been exclusively obtained by CNN.
Here's our justice correspondent, Pamela Brown.
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PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: These remarkable pictures had never been seen until now obtained by CNN, they show of a relax, smiling Osama bin Laden at his hideout in a mountains of Afghanistan. Five years before he would launched the biggest terror attack in American history.
ABDEL BARI ATWAN, BIN LADEN INTERVIEWER: When I met him and when I am introduced to him, he wasn't - he hated the Americans. He hated actually the American policies in the Middle East. But it never occurred to me that he will be, you know, planning for 11th of September attacks.
BROWN: Abdel Bari Atwan, the first journalist to ever interview Osama bin Laden, took many of these exclusive pictures. He's seen here with a high-ranking al Qaeda jihadist who was there during the interview. After a harrowing seven hour journey through the Tora Bora Mountains, Atwan arrived at bin Laden's secret retreat under heavy security.
ATWAN: I remember there was a military maneuver half an hour after I arrived there and when I asked them, why is that? They said, you know, because we were scared that the American could follow you and that they could actually bomb us.
BROWN: CNN has obtained these photos at the same time the world is learning more about the al Qaeda mastermind, from letters and documents found in his compound by SEAL team six the night he was killed. Those documents were released as evidence in a federal terror trial paint the picture of a man increasingly fearful of drone strikes and concern about his crumbling organization. But Atwan says he saw a very different young man when he met bin Laden in the '90s.
ATWAN: He is a very, very humble and he is like everybody else around him, despite being a very wealthy man, his clothes were very modest. His food was actually very, very primitive food. It was just the fried eggs and some rotten cheese.
BROWN: Despite his modesty, bin Laden liked to show off some of his most prized possessions like the rifle he was carrying in this picture.
ATWAN: He showed me his Kalashnikov, his rifle, actually. He said he's proud of this rifle because he captured it from a Soviet general he killed.
BROWN: This picture captures bin Laden giving Atwan a tour of his land he was so proud of. And that would later become his safe haven right after 9/11.
ATWAN: We walked for more than an hour and a half, in the mountains of Tora Bora and he was very, very active.
BROWN: Atwan says he even spent two sleepless nights in a cave with the terror leader. ATWAN: On a very, very old and very stiff mattress, so I really
couldn't sleep. I discovered that I was sleeping on arsenal of (INAUDIBLE) their hand grenades, rifles, and so I couldn't sleep. You know, I thought maybe any mistake, I would be blown up completely.
BROWN: Pamela Brown, CNN, Washington.
COOPER: Well, CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen is one of the few journalists who can say that they met face to face with Osama bin Laden. He joins us now.
Peter, I'm curious. The new pictures that we're seeing, how do they compare to the bin Laden you met and interviewed just a year later?
PETER BERGEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I think they're very different, Anderson, because I mean this is a much more sort of relaxed bin Laden. It's during the day. We met him in the middle of the night. They were very concerned about representatives of an American news organization interviewing him. They were very paranoid. You know, when Abdel Bari Atwan went - met with bin Laden, he spent two days with at least bin Laden's company, and they sent these series of pictures that we're seeing for the first time. You know, only- I mean as far as I can tell, it's the first time that we've actually seen the hideout where bin Laden lived in such detail. The hideout, of course, was destroyed by U.S. bombs a few weeks after 9/11. I have gone after that area, you know, that all of that bin Laden compound was completely bombed out.
So it's a different picture, this, and, of course, at the time, Anderson, when he was, you know, these pictures were taken, there was a lot of stuff in the future that we didn't know. 9/11, the embassy attacks, et cetera.
COOPER: And how much of that was already being planned by him?
BERGEN: You know, what's interesting is the embassy attacks were being planned three years before this picture was first taken.
BERGEN: The 9/11 attacks were at least on a very kind of - for all its sense, were percolating already. So, you know, he was already down this path.
COOPER: And the documents that were released in a separate trial, they seem to make it clear that bin Laden and his team, I mean, they knew how close the CIA was.
BERGEN: Yeah. They were - they were very paranoid. And they had good reasons to be. Like - you have so many of bin Laden's closest leaders in al Qaeda being killed. They're very detailed discussions about one leader who was killed and the circumstances of that. And people inside al Qaeda were saying that bin Laden stopped communicating, take - CIA is really on your trail and he didn't really take that advice and of course, very soon thereafter was found by the CIA and then we know what happened.
COOPER: And in terms of drone strikes, and obviously we're talking about much later than these pictures, but in terms of drone strikes, the documents show that not only were they effective in killing top al Qaeda operatives, they were also effective in hindering them in general from traveling, from communicating.
BERGEN: Yeah. I think they did exactly what they were intended to do. They really interrupted the ability of al Qaeda to plan these attacks in the West. And some of these documents say hey, we sent people to Russia, it didn't really pun out. We sent people to Britain that didn't pan out, we sent people to Denmark. It didn't pan out. Bin Laden was very conscious of the fact that he hadn't had a successful attack in the West for a long time and he died knowing that his organization was under great stress, that he hadn't achieved his goal of attacking America again.
COOPER: And in terms of the documents collected in the raid that killed bin Laden, all the information has not been released, obviously. There must be a lot that is still secret.
BERGEN: Well, I mean - and I do, I think we should - and I hope that the administration, four years now, I mean not a lot of the secret stuff is sort of very dated. I mean for historians, journalists, academics, people watching this, you and I, anybody interested in this subject, there's a lot more we should find out about and the government is sitting on it. Tens of thousands of documents that I hope get released.
COOPER: That many? Tens of thousands?
BERGEN: I mean it's uncountable. I mean I've seen figures of up to a million. We don't really know, but it's a very substantial cash of documents. We've just seen a tiny, tiny sliver.
COOPER: Wow. Fascinating stuff there I bet. Peter, thanks very much, as always.
BERGEN: Thank you.
COOPER: Just ahead, a U.S. marshal killed in the line of duty a day before his wife learned the baby they're expecting is a boy. Plus, Drew Griffin had some questions for Congressman Aaron Schock about who is paying, who exactly is paying for his cushy lifestyle and adventure travel, because it seems like taxpayers are awfully - are paying off a lot of it. See what happened when he tracked the congressman down.
COOPER: In Madison, Wisconsin, demonstrators took the streets for a fifth day to protest the fatal police shooting of an unarmed biracial teenager. Tony Robinson was 19 years old. We and other news programs, spent a lot of time reporting on police shootings of suspects and that coverage is certainly warranted. But the fact is, sometimes it's police officers who don't come home to their families. Tonight, the family of Deputy U.S. Marshal Josie Wells is living through that nightmare. Deputy Wells was killed yesterday while trying to make an arrest. He was killed bravely doing his job. According to group that tracks law enforcement deaths, 50 officers were shot and killed in the line of duty last year. Randi Kaye has Deputy Wells' story.
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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Elk Grove motel outside Baton Rouge, Deputy U.S. Marshal Josie Wells in the line of fire. On Tuesday, Wells arrived here hoping to serve a warrant to a man suspected of a double murder.
KEVIN C. HARRISON, U.S. MARSHAL: During that apprehension, one of our deputy United States marshals was gravely wounded.
KAYE: Before Wells could arrest suspect Jamie Croom, he was hit multiple times. It was 11:00 a.m. A woman who asked not to be identified heard the shots and saw the bloodshed.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He had a vest on, but it looked like the wounds were to his neck. They took his vest off and they were trying to pretty much just to put pressure to the wounds and, you know, they put him in the trunk and tried to get him to help immediately.
KAYE: The 27-year old Deputy U.S. marshal was taken to Lane Regional Medical Center near Baton Rouge, where he later died.
UM: This must be gut-wrenching for you, guys, having to go through this, and having to alert the marshal's family today.
UM: Yeah. It is.
KAYE: The double murder suspect Jamie Croom was wanted in the February shooting death of two siblings. Croom's older sister told CNN he told her he'd rather be dead than go back to jail. In the shootout with the U.S. marshal, Croom was also wounded. He died at the hospital shortly after being charged in the murder of the U.S. marshal. In a tragic twist of fate, Deputy Marshal Josie Wells, was based out of Mississippi and was only in Baton Rouge on temporary assignment.
PATRICK LA FLEUR, WITNESS: That's terrible. That should not happen. He's doing his job.
KAYE: Josie Wells had been a deputy marshal since 2011. His father is retired law enforcement and his brother is a police officer in Jackson, Mississippi. One of his professors from Jackson State University told us Wells was focused and disciplined and always dreamed of becoming U.S. marshal. The professor said Wells never thought of it as a dangerous job, he just knew he wanted to do it.
SHERIFF BRYAN BAILEY, RANKIN COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI: And these guys are going out several times a day, serving out warrants for violent crimes, and they, you know, they're prepared and ready for it. But you just can't be ready for every scenario.
KAYE: Especially when a cold-blooded killer opens fire. In this case, Josie Wells leaves behind a beautiful bride who just learned the day after his murder that she's having a baby boy. Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
COOPER: Our thoughts are with his family, his friends, and all his colleagues in the marshal service. Let's get the latest on some of the other stories we're following. Right now Amara Walker has a "360" bulletin. Amara?
AMARA WALKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, on Capitol Hill, Senator Marco Rubio accused the Obama administration of shaping its policies in Iraq and Syria to make sure that it clinches a nuclear deal with Iran. In a tense exchange, Secretary John Kerry denied that Iran is impacting the U.S. strategy to defeat ISIS.
At the bombing Boston - bombing trial, a police sergeant described finding officer Sean Collier covered in blood in his squad car on the MIT campus three days after the bombings. Prosecutors say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother murdered Collier during an unsuccessful attempt to steal his gun.
And a reporter in Johannesburg, South Africa, was mugged at gunpoint while waiting to file a live report. And he was just minutes away from going on the air. The assailants got away with a lap top and several cell phones. Thankfully, no one was hurt. Incredibly brazen crime.
COOPER: Yeah, unbelievable. Amara, thanks very much.
Coming up, his Instagram pictures are full of adventure, travel, life of the jet set but is this U.S. Congressman funding his luxurious lifestyle with taxpayer money? Drew Griffin caught up with Aaron Schock back in his Illinois district.
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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Looking back, do you think you made a mistake? Can you understand why people are concerned?
AARON SCHOCK: I hope you enjoy your time in the 18th district.
COOPER: Illinois congressman Aaron Schock is certainly one of the most colorful characters in the House of Representatives. He poses without a shirt, goes zip-lining, parasailing, treats his staff to trips to New York and he quotes Taylor Swift lyrics. But all the funny games have taken a serious turn with questions about whether he's misusing taxpayer money to fund some of these adventures. CNN senior investigative correspondent Drew Griffin caught up with the congressman in his home state trying to get some answers.
DREW GRIFFIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A smiling congressman Aaron Schock is trying to keep his schedule and keep up the appearance nothing is wrong.
(on camera): Can we get a few questions from you?
SCHOCK: You know what, I'm headed into a school assembly, but you're welcome to join me.
GRIFFIN: Can we ask you some questions on the way out?
SCHOCK: You are always free to ask questions.
GRIFFIN (voice over): But questions for the 33-year old once rising star in the Republican Party had been getting tougher to deal with. Schock has been under fire for a string of questionable spending. Not the least of which is the $40,000 reportedly in taxpayer funds he spent overhauling his congressional office to look like an English manor, inspired by the TV show, "Downton Abbey." The decor fits in with the congressman's glamorous persona, known for posting pictures on Instagram of his worldwide travels, meeting with the pope at the Vatican, parasailing in Argentina, the single congressman even parted his shirt to post for this cover of the "Men's Health." Odd for the typical U.S. congressman. But as he told ABC News, he's anything but one of those common old men in the Capitol.
SCHOCK: You know, as Taylor Swift said, haters are going to hate.
GRIFFIN: With all his sudden fame and attraction to the high life, the congressional watchdogs and media outlets are all asking one question. Where is all the money coming from? And according to the congressman's own sloppy finance records, a lot of it is coming from none other than you. Reports reveal Aaron Schock using taxpayer and campaign money to buy tickets to rock concerts, travel on board private donor airplanes. He spent $10,000 splurging his staff on a weekend trip to New York, reportedly even a $29,000 bill for a professional photographer. And that Downton Abbey office makeover included a $15,000 payment to an interior decorator. Last week, the congressman from conservative rural Illinois admitted it doesn't look good.
SCHOCK: I know that when I take a trip and I post photos online, it can create the misimpression of being out of touch or an image that is not worthy of my constituents.
GRIFFIN: Today, after speaking to a high school class about his humble beginnings, Congressman Schock first dodged CNN's questions about all of this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you explain your lavish lifestyle?
GRIFFIN: Then decided to answer the question without explaining any of it. (on camera): Can you explain the lavish lifestyle you've been leading
on the backs of taxpayers?
SCHOCK: I will say this, as I've said before, I take the law and my compliance very seriously, and based on the team of professionals that I've hired to review my office's processes and procedures, including the former head of the Federal Election Commission, and that review is ongoing. And I'm not going to comment further until that review is complete. And I would just say in the meantime, as you saw today, I'm focused on doing what I've done best, which is delivering for the people of the 18th District. People who have elected me. So thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) spend $27,000 on a professional photographer or $1,900 on Katy Perry tickets? Congressman, do you think it's appropriate to spend political donations in a kind of a slush fund, $24,000 in private plane tickets? Do you have any explanation, whether legal or not, is it right, is the question? Looking back, do you think you made a mistake? Can you understand why people are concerned?
SCHOCK: I hope you enjoy your time in the 18th district.
GRIFFIN: Sir, come on. I've been polite to you.
COOPER: Drew Griffin joins us now with more on how this is playing in Peoria. That's really the question. I know you're at an outside event where the congressman is speaking right now. The congressman could be in real trouble here. I don't quite understand why he needs to hire outsiders to look at how he's spending money.
GRIFFIN: Well, Anderson, if he misspent taxpayer money, and more importantly, what's being alleged here in some of these cases, if he actually tried to cover up that spending, he could be in real trouble. In one case, there was a reported $3,000 purchase of software for his office. Now that's looking more and more like it was a $3,000 plane ride on yet another private donor's private plane. So that could get him in trouble. We do know this. He has paid back $40,000 to the government for that Downton Abbey redo of his office, and he has also hired a very high profile Washington law firm is is specializing in white collar crimes. So he is taking this seriously.
COOPER: I guess we've got to give him the benefit of the doubt. There is the real possibility that sloppy or not, the spending, especially from his political donors, could be legal, right?
GRIFFIN: Yes, it could be legal. As we've been reporting on your show, the donations, the taxpayer money is one thing. Donations to these political action committees almost come with no rules. Corporations, lobbyists, give these congressmen money, senators money, they spend it on golf trips, ski trips, whatever. As we've reported, this has come with so few rules that it pretty much is legal.
COOPER: We'll keep on it. Drew Griffin, thank you very much. The Ridiculist is next.
COOPER: Time now for the Ridiculist. And tonight we take a trip to visit our friends up north in Canada's parliament. It seems the proceedings hit a minor snag recently in the Canadian House of Commons during a motion to adjourn debate.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if I could have the clarification from you as to the validity of a vote from a member who leaves his seat during the vote and then returns to it in order to vote.
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COOPER: The member in question did have an explanation as to why he left his seat during the middle of the debate. Here's what he said.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can blame it on a sale that was down at the Hudson Bay, men's underwear on for half price. I bought a bunch that was clearly too small for me, and I find it difficult to sit for any length of time, Mr. Speaker. So I apologize if it was necessary for me to leave my seat briefly, but I did not mean to forfeit my right to vote.
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COOPER: I love Canada. I just want to say that. I really like Canada. I'm not 100 percent sure, but I think that may be an unprecedented excuse in the political sphere, Canadian or otherwise. Even the presiding officer wasn't quite sure how to proceed.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I had no briefing on this type of -- [ laughter ]
He did step out of his chair for a very short time, and was directed by me to sit down again. Didn't understand the explanation at the time that he subsequently gave. Can't say I really understand it at this point, but -- [ laughter ]
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COOPER: It's like a night at the laugh shack. In the end, the vote stood, and the parliament members thought the opposing party member who brought up the issue of him leaving his seat because of his underwear for a few seconds was overreacting, so he gave a cheeky answer to a cheeky question. But he also said a lot of grumpiness in the House of Commons might be traced to the fact that members are indeed buying knickers that are too small and then getting them in a twist. Unless you think we're throwing stones, yes, it's true, we've had our underwear problems in our house as well. Underwear problems of a somewhat different nature, but problems nonetheless.
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WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: We just want to resolve it once and for all. You would know if this is your underpants.
FORMER REP. ANTHONY WEINER, D-NEW YORK: The question is, I appreciate you continuing to flash that at me. Look, I've said the best I can that we're going to try to get to the bottom of what happened.
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COOPER: There's puns all around. So maybe when you think about it, tight underwear is more of a common political issue than it would seem at first glance. It's just that each politician puts his own spin on it as they jockey for position on the Ridiculist.
Well, that does it for us. We'll see you again 11:00 p.m. Eastern for another edition of "360." Hope you'll join us.