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Officials Investigating Radicalized Paris Airport Employees; Prosecutor: Mastermind Returned to Attack Scenes; Manhunt Intensifies, Expands to Germany; Video Released Of White Officer Shooting Black Teen. Aired 7-8:00p ET
Aired November 24, 2015 - 19:00 ET
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[19:00:09] ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: OUTFRONT next, the breaking news, we are monitoring that video of a police shooting a black teen 16 times out of Chicago.
Also breaking news, Islam is infiltrating France's main airport Charles de Gaulle. The massive international manhunt continues in Europe.
And exclusive video of a Russian plane shot down by Turkey shouts of Allahu Akbar as one of the pilots is shot to death. Let's go OUTFRONT.
Good evening, I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT tonight. Breaking news. Radicalized employees may have infiltrated one of the world's busiest airports. A counterterrorist source telling CNN that investigators are monitoring a number of Islamic radicals who may be working at the Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris. This disturbing detail coming as the manhunt for the suspected Paris attacker stretches to Germany. Authorities now going door-to-door searching for Salah Abdeslam. He's been on the run for 11 days. And we are also learning tonight that on the night of the attack the so-called mastermind Abdelhamid Abaaoud returned to the crime scenes to see firsthand the carnage.
There are many breaking developments tonight. We begin our coverage with Clarissa Ward in Paris. And Clarissa, French officials now are worried about radicalized workers at Charles de Gaulle Airport.
CLARISSA WARD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Erin. And it's not just the airports they are worried about. They are looking at all public transport, they're looking at the railway system, they're looking at the buses. One of the bombers Sammy Amamore (ph) was in fact a bus driver until late 2012. And we are now learning that right around that time, ground and air transportation unions started to make complaint that they believed some of their employees were becoming radicalized. They cited examples of male employees refusing to greet female passengers, some of them even praying inside the buses.
We know now that in the last week, French police have launched a series of searches on the France's main airports here in Paris Orly and also Charles de Gaulle. And we know that those searches focused on three main companies, I'll tell you those companies are Air France cargo, serve air and FedEx. All of those companies Erin have access airside, to the tarmac, to aircraft, and they have said that none of their employees have been terminated as a result of this investigation, but Erin, this is still very much an ongoing investigation.
BURNETT: And certainly one with a great cause of concern as you've mentioned. Air France, cargo and FedEx. Now, a major clue tonight that may lead authorities to the suspected Paris attacks fugitive. Authorities identifying one of Salah Abdeslam's accomplices.
Martin Savidge is OUTFRONT in Paris.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Tonight, authorities launching a new manhunt for a second suspect believed to be connected to the Paris Friday the 13th attacks. Police say Mohamed Abrini is the man who drove one of the cars used to deliver ISIS team members to their targets including a suicide bomber at a Paris stadium. Abrini is captured on this security camera at a French gas station two days before the terrorist strike. He is pictured with Europe's other most wanted man, Salah Abdeslam. The search for Abdeslam expanded into northwestern Germany today after a tip from French investigators. But once again, police came up empty. Back in France came new and frightening revelations. According to the Paris prosecutor, the suspected ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud was on the verge of carrying out a second deadly assault in Paris, this time in a busy financial area.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through a translator): The two terrorists Abaaoud and the man found with him in the apartment were planning an attack which consisted of blowing themselves up on Wednesday November 18th or on Thursday November 19th in the business district of la defense.
SAVIDGE: The plot was foiled, investigators say, when French authorities carried out this early morning raid in Saint Denis last Wednesday. It may explain why those inside the apartment appeared to be so well armed and ready as authorities moved in. The resulting fire fight lasted an hour and nearly destroyed the building. Abaaoud was killed in the assault. Police say his cell phone delivered a wealth of information including calls he's believed to have made to the killers during the Friday the 13th attacks, possibly directing them as they zeroed in on their targets. The phone also revealed Abaaoud's movements that night, indicating he may have returned to the scenes of the massacres.
Nerves remain on edge in Paris. Several metro stations closed and there were several evacuations triggered by information authorities say they received. In neighboring Belgium, the entire capital of Brussels remains virtually shut down as authorities fear they may be the next target of a Paris style attack. Hundreds of troops and police continue to patrol the city streets in numbers not seen since the Second World War.
[19:05:15] SAVIDGE: The main focus back here in Paris Erin is trying to account for all of those who may have been involved in the Paris attack, both the living and the dead. They need to make sure they know about all of those people. And there is still DNA they haven't accounted for. The fear is there could be others they don't know about who could still be on the loose, either on the run or planning some other kind of revenge -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Marty. And of course, some in that apartment they took in for questioning. They have now been forced by French law to release them. People who are actually in that apartment that night.
OUTFRONT now, former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd, former director of intelligence of the NYPD Mitchell Silber and our terrorism analyst Paul Cruikshank. Paul, let me start with you. The manhunt for Salah Abdeslam now moving into Germany. They are going door to door. And yet they have come up with nothing. Do you think they are closing in?
PAUL CRUIKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: Erin, I do think they are getting close. There was a key arrest on Sunday night. And it was the guy who picked Salah Abdeslam up once he got to Brussels. He actually got the Brussel's district of Alakan (ph). He was then picked up by this other accomplice, other associates who is now under arrest. And that puts them one step closer to finding Salah Abdeslam -- Erin.
BURNETT: And Phil, we are now learning the ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud was driving around, watching after the terrorists carried out the attacks, calling on his cell phone to see what they were doing and then going to each of the locations to see what had happened. Why would he have done that?
PHIL MUDD, FORMER CIA COUNTERTERRORISM OFFICIAL: Well, a couple of things we are learning here. First, that looks like an amateur move to me. And most terrorists operations, even if these folks received rudimentary training, they think less about the follow-on, how to escape than they do about the event itself. I think a couple of things happened here. And number one, he was nervous. He was trying to figure out the extent of the reaction against the attacks. I also think when they looked at the second round of attacks in Northern Paris, that they bit off more than they could chew. ISIS, this is their first major foray into a big terrorist operation in Western Europe. They are trying to compete with the memories of al Qaeda. I think they said let's go for something huge, not only an attack and a follow-on attack and they got caught up in the complexity of the operation.
BURNETT: Mitch, what do you think?
MITCHELL SILBER, FORMER DIRECTOR, NYPD INTELLIGENCE ANALYSIS: I think the situation that, you know, he was the field general. He wanted to make sure that the plot was going as planned. You know, as we already know, some of the suicide bombers who were around the stadium were ineffective in their attacks.
SILBER: And if there was a second wave coming along, he wanted to think about what is more effective in terms of how to deploy other suicide bombers.
BURNETT: All right. So, here's in the sense learned from what he deemed his mistakes. I mean, Paul, Abaaoud was not only watching the attacks unfolding, he was calling the gunmen, which I just mentioned a moment ago. Calling them to check in. What does that say, he's worried that they wouldn't go ahead with it? That they might give up and flee as it appears Salah Abdeslam may have done?
CRUIKSHANK: Well, as Mitchell is saying, it appears he was a sort of commander in the field. That he was perhaps micromanaging some of this, making sure that it went forward as he communicated that night with several perhaps of the attackers. Just making sure that they were going to follow through with this.
CRUIKSHANK: And then of course later that night, he goes back to the scene of the crime. He goes (INAUDIBLE). He goes back to the Bataclan. Investigators are trying to figure out why he went back there. They've traced his cell phone to those areas. One hypothesis, is he went back there Erin to film the carnage so they could be put into an ISIS propaganda video. ISIS are telling their operatives to film everything so that they can use it for propaganda. That plot thwarted in Belgium in January where he was also the ringleader, they found Go-Pro cameras there. So, he's got a track record of having his cells film stuff.
BURNETT: And now, in terms of the next attack, they were planning Mitch we now know an attack on the financial district that could have happened the day that they were able to go ahead with that raid or maybe the day after. We are now also hearing that France is concerned that there has been successful radicalization of workers within its main airport, at FedEx, at Air France cargo, among others. You just heard Clarissa Ward reporting on that. That is pretty terrifying for people to hear.
SILBER: It is. It's something we've seen before in the UK. There was a situation where someone who worked within the UK airports has been radicalized, traveled back and forth to Bangladesh. And ultimately he was in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki, an al Qaeda in Yemen. Fortunately he was detected. But he was also using encrypted communication back with al Qaeda in Yemen. And it shows that trend of needing to detect people who are radicalized in sensitive jobs like at the airport, other transportation hubs is something very difficult for law enforcement and intelligence to do.
[19:10:06] BURNETT: And Phil, of course, in the United States, someone in Minneapolis had been radicalized. They found that individual but we are now looking at what it is, tens of thousands, up to 70,000 employees of U.S. airports who are not screened by security services, CIA or FBI.
MUDD: That's right. Let me pick up on something Mitch said, he hit something critical. Back when al Qaeda in Yemen was trying to stage a follow-on attack, when they failed with that attempt to take down an airliner over Detroit, they tried to put cartridges on a cargo aircraft.
MUDD: We talk a lot about how you screen somebody at the frontend. How you get somebody who might be radicalized who was applying for the job. What we learned and what Mitch referred to is, there are people who are in jobs already who are trying to self- recruit into al Qaeda. The other thing, in addition to screening people applying is, you've got to think about when somebody is in the job, how do you have a recertification overtime to ensure that they are not radicalizing once they get in -- Erin.
BURNETT: Paul, in terms of where Salah Abdeslam may be, at this point, are they open to the idea that he has completely escaped to their net? I mean, could he be in someplace like Syria as Phil has raised?
CRUIKSHANK: Well, yes. He certainly could be on the way to Syria. But I think they feel now they are getting closer to him as I was saying, this associate who actually picked him up once he already got back to Brussels, he was brought back by two friends driving through the night, arriving at the -- picked up by another friend. They've got that guy in custody now.
CRUIKSHANK: So, every step of the way they are getting closer and closer and closer. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an arrest in the next 24 to 48 hours.
BURNETT: Right. And see whether it's an arrest or whether he does try to go down with some horrific act. Thanks to all three of you.
OUTFRONT next, exclusive new video of the Russian plane shot down after only seconds in Turkish Air space. The pilot meeting a brutal death on the ground.
And then an unprecedented move for police in the United States. An FBI bulletin warning of attacks on soft targets.
And breaking news at this hour, Chicago police releasing the video of a white officer shooting a black teen up to 16 times for jaywalking. The mayor begging for calm tonight. We are live in Chicago. We're going to show you that video.
[19:15:29] BURNETT: We have breaking news in Chicago tonight. Police releasing a dash cam video showing a white police officer shooting a black teenager 16 times. It was a fatal encounter. It has led to murder charges for the officer. You see there. Jason Van Dyke, he shot 17-year-old Laquan McDonald. Now, the video I'm going to warn you, it is very graphic. Was released just moments ago for the first time. Here it is.
There is no audio. As you could tell. But I wanted you to be able to watch it yourself. There is the teen walking down the street. Now, there is a back story here. We're going to tell you. The bottom-line is, he was shot 16 times.
I want to bring in former NYPD Officer Bill Stanton and Don Lemon. All right. Before we get to how this incident started, I just want to ask you, you know, Bill, straight up, is there anything that could justify a kid walking away getting shot 16 times?
BILL STANTON, FORMER NYPD OFFICER: Yes, but I don't see it here. All right. He is supposedly on PCP. And there have been documented cases where people are shot multiple times. What I want to see from that video, I have more questions, how many times was he hit before he went down?
BURNETT: And that which is a crucial question. We're going to show it again in just a moment. Don, let me ask you though to explain to viewers the back story, such that there is.
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Yes.
BURNETT: How did this even start?
LEMON: October 24, 2014, this was over a year ago. There was a 911 call for this young man Laquan McDonald that he claimed he was acting radically, he was in a trucking yard at Archer Heights, an Archer Heights tracking yard in Chicago. And that he was attempting to break into vehicles. Police got there. They had an altercation.
BURNETT: And this is all before this happened.
LEMON: This is all before this happened --
BURNETT: They got this call. OK.
LEMON: But the officer who you see here who shoots him just arrived moments before he shot -- I hate seeing that.
LEMON: Moments before he shot him. And, you know, where I was in the studio earlier, a much smaller monitor. But looking at that, I mean, it's just awful. And I'm glad you said nothing you see justifies on this particular tape what happened to that young man. Because if you look at the video, and we played it a little bit longer in "THE SITUATION ROOM," it looks like he was walking past the officer. It doesn't look like he was approaching the officers. And we know he had a knife. You know, we're not out there --
BURNETT: Which makes the crucial point here, that, it is the knife, such that he had a four-inch knife that they had been told he had. Some would argue, oh, if you're within 20 feet it could be dangerous. But the bottom-line is, he didn't turn towards them.
LEMON: He didn't turn towards the officers.
BURNETT: He didn't do anything. So, even if you want to make that argument, he didn't turn to go towards, he was going somewhere else. Right? So, the knife would not be a point here.
LEMON: Right. It doesn't look. For me looking at it at as a Lehman, it doesn't look like he was approaching the officers. It just looks like he was walking in the middle of the street or as they say jaywalking. You know, maybe he had some issues, who knows? But again, it does not look like he was threatening the officers or walking towards the officers. Look, he is moving away. He is walking away from --
BURNETT: Right. You see the police on the left, he is on the right.
STANTON: You're seeing one angle. And I'm not defending. I'm just making my observation --
BURNETT: You are raising where you would see questions?
STANTON: And he's walking. And I need to know, was he given directives when he was shot, how many times was he shot, you know, standing up and was he shot from the angle? Was he one shot? Was it like one shot and then 15 when he was down? And then what precipitated his fear for the officer.
LEMON: That is all very legitimate. That you are asking, if you are asking someone, and you and I, you're asking us to look at this tape and we don't know everything. We weren't there. We don't hear the audio. But just looking at it for now, doesn't look right.
STANTON: It doesn't.
BURNETT: How important is it that there is no audio? Because again, I get to the point that you know what happened here. Is there any audio? Any, you know, expletives or whatever he is saying to the cops, again, as bad as that might have been, it wouldn't have justified what we then saw.
STANTON: I'm always in the place where we need to give the cop the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Now, this does not look good. I'm not going to defend the indefensible here, but I do want to hear were there directives given to this man? Did he have the knife in his hand? Did he say anything back? Was he saying, "I'm going to kill you?" You know, and again, the angle looks like he is walking away. But we are seeing one angle. You know, he is next to the police officers and he could have closed that distance really quick. Again, I'm not defending, I'm just asking questions.
BURNETT: Asking questions. OK. As you're both here. Let me bring in Rosa Flores, she's in Chicago. And I know Rose, you have some more details on this video. What can you tell us?
[19:20:08] ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the prosecutor Erin took us on a second by second account of what they investigated. Now, she said that it has taken this long, more than a year because both state and federal authorities were involved in this. So, let me take you through what she took us through in this press conference. She says that the police officer arrived. Once the officer arrived, she said that within six seconds he started shooting his weapon. He started firing his weapon. Now, if you look at that video closely, you'll see it. At the very beginning, you see Laquan McDonald kind of running and walking. If you take a look at the left side of the screen, I'm not sure if we are able to pause this video, but if you look at the left side of the screen, she pointed out that there is an officer with his gun raised and he's pointing towards Laquan McDonald.
Now, the actual angle of that video shifts a bit. She mentioned that. We asked her about it. Why did that angle move? Because like you were mentioning earlier, you don't see the officer in the shooting. That's why. Because the cruiser that had that dash cam was actually moving. It was in motion. And so it changed the angle. You don't see the police officer. But you see the body. Now, so again, the prosecutor saying that within six seconds of this officer arriving on scene he starts firing his weapon. The entire time that this occurred where you see the shooting, she says it's about 30 seconds. Only the first couple of shots were shot at Laquan McDonald when he was standing. The others were when he was on the ground.
Now, that's what a lot of these community activists from the city of Chicago are very upset about. That's one of the reasons they wanted the release of this video. Because they said it was very evident, once that you saw it, that Laquan McDonald fell and then there were more shots. Now, of course we don't have sound in this video. And we asked the prosecutor about this. One of the things that he mentioned is she said, if you look closely, you'll see puffs of smoke. She said, that's one of the indicators that they looked as to when some of the shots were fired. And of course, they were looking at this second by second, Erin, trying to dissect this video, talking to witnesses, corroborating that evidence before coming forward.
Now, I should add that she said that both state and federal investigators were investigating this. The Feds are still investigating. We received a release this afternoon from the U.S. attorney saying that their investigation continues. During the press conference earlier today, the state's attorney said that she actually was compelled to release these charges early, even though she had decided this a couple of weeks ago. She said I decided to release it early only because of the release of this video. And we should point out that the only reason why this video is being released at this point in time is because there was a journalist who filed a FOIA request and in a civil court the judge decided that this tape had to be released to the public. Again, a lot of the community leaders in this city had been asking for the release of this video. They thought it was important for transparency purposes. And today after more than a year, Erin, we finally get to see those images.
BURNETT: All right. As Rosa said, because a reporter put a Freedom of Information Act Request out.
LEMON: FOIA. I'm sorry. But when I look at that, he's walking away, he's walking away. He's walking away. The more you look at it. It's not the angle of the cruiser.
BURNETT: And he goes down on what appears to be the first shot.
LEMON: The first shot, it spins him around.
BURNETT: And so why, if he's on the ground, why do they need to shoot anymore? I mean, I'm sorry, the more you look at it, it's, you know --
LEMON: I mean, Bill, the more you look at it, the worse it gets. Because then Rosa also adding an important detail. Right? You see this from the angle of the cruiser. So, someone is already there watching this guy walk. They've got the 911 call. It's another cop though that drives up and within six seconds starts shooting. So, a guy who doesn't even really know what's going on.
STANTON: In Ferguson you saw me argue a lot more strenuously. In this, like I'm leaning towards you guys. Obviously. I'm not going to defend the indefensible, I'll say it again. It does not look good. But I do want to hear all the facts. Police officers do need the benefit of the doubt.
LEMON: Of course. And as a journalist, we want all the facts. But you're asking -- what we're doing now is analyzing a videotape which is the story right now.
LEMON: In time -- more information will come out. We should always push for that. I agree with that. But also having, I have to say this. And I want people in Chicago to be calm. You should be calm because --
BURNETT: We should know. This cop was charged with first degree murder. We are not putting this video out and saying, this is outrage, this person has not been charged.
BURNETT: This person has been charged with first degree murder.
LEMON: Let me finish my thought. You cannot fight violence with violence. People should protest. And that is our right here. The freedom of expression is our fight here. But there is a systemic long-standing problem with the Chicago Police Department that I witnessed for myself as a man of color living in that city. And I was shocked and moved from New York City to Chicago.
[19:25:18] BURNETT: Uh-hm. And how much of this are you willing to share?
LEMON: Well, I don't want to share it. It's not about me. But I want the viewers to know. I've experienced it. And I want viewers to know that this is a problem in Chicago. And it has been a problem. And the mayor got up there today, fine. I understand. And what Garry McCarthy (ph), things are better than they have been, according to them. But this is something that people have been discussing for years and has been trying to bring attention to the police department and to city officials for years. And it has fallen on deaf ears.
STANTON: But I would like to add, and I'm glad we're not talking about this. If this pans out the way it is, it is a bad cop that did a bad thing. Not a white cop, a cop. And this shouldn't be, unless this cop yelled something, we have proof that this was racial, race shouldn't play a component in the shooting. It's a bad cop.
LEMON: The cop was white and the suspect in this particular case was black.
STANTON: Yes. But unless there was proof to show this man was racist --
BURNETT: That he wouldn't be racially motivated.
STANTON: Yes. There shouldn't be color involved. It's a bad cop, pure and simple.
BURNETT: All right. Well, thanks very much to both of you. We're continuing our breaking news coverage of this. That video breaking. We also have exclusive new video of a plane being shot down today only seconds after crossing into Turkish air space. The pilot then shot to death as he attempted to parachute to safety by men yelling Allah Akbar.
Plus, the FBI wearing a possible attacks on soft targets in the USA, New York City scrambling to add more detectives to track terror leads. We'll be right back.
[19:30:41] BURNETT: Breaking news: we have just obtained exclusive new video that shows the wreckage of a Russian warplane shot down near the Turkish/Syrian border by Turkey. Turkey says it warned the pilot 10 times before shooting it down.
But a U.S. official tells CNN the jet was only in Turkish air space for less than 30 seconds, less than 30 seconds and it got shot down.
President Obama defended the action. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its air space.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: Nick Paton Walsh is OUTFRONT in Istanbul.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the moment the war on is lurched yet again out of control. A Russian SU-24 at 9:24 local time Turkey says in its airspace is hit by Turkish F-16s, warned to leave ten times in five minutes, Turkey says, releasing a map where it violated their borders.
The pilots earlier bombing whoever was on the ground below eject and become the target as they go down.
"We killed him," says one Turkman rebel.
WALSH: One dead at least Russian official said dead before he hits the ground. Russia insisted its plane never left Syrian airspace and sent helicopters to rescue the men, but they too hit resistance. One fired at also by rebels with another Russian marine killed in this operation.
Russia's first casualties and a bold move by NATO member that left Vladimir Putin fuming.
VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Today's loss for us was a stab in the back from terrorist accomplices. I cannot describe it in any other way.
WALSH: Turkey standing firm, calling an emergency NATO meeting, saying Russia had violated their airspace before.
AHMET DAVUTOGLU, TURKISH PRIME MINISTER (through translator): Everyone should know that Turkey has the right to respond if its air space is violated, despite repeated warnings.
WALSH: Another terrifying moment, another reminder Syrian war finds constant new ways to surprise.
WALSH: Now, I should say, we don't know the fate at this stage of that second pilot. And also, too, we don't know quite how long that Russian aircraft was in Turkish air space. That isn't clear at this stage. And, Erin, that uncertainty does not help anybody here draw a
line under a moment, an instant which frankly I think everyone in the world wants over as quickly as possible -- Erin.
BURNETT: Nick, thank you very much. That was an incredibly disturbing video.
I'm joined by former CIA operative Bob Baer, intelligence and security analyst, and retired Major General Spider Marks.
Bob, let me start with you. You believe and when we see that video, it is shocking and hard to watch, when you're watching someone laugh shooting down those pilots and killing them, as they drifted down completely defenseless. It is horrific to see. This is a very, very big moment.
BOB BAER, CNN INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY ANALYST: I think it's a huge moment, Erin. I think that Putin is going to respond. He could do any number of things like putting in batteries, surface-to-air missiles in Syria. I wouldn't put it past him. He's not going to back down.
If you listen to Putin carefully, he said their presence, their military presence in Syria is an act of self-defense because so many people from the North Caucasus are coming to Syria getting training and one day will come back. That's the way he framed this conflict. And, you know, the chances of this escalating from here without deconfliction of any sort of I think is pretty good.
BURNETT: Certainly a framing that the president of France can understand right now, given that that just happened to them.
Let me ask you, General, of what happened here, when you see the plane shot down out of the sky, the Turks said they warned the plane ten times. But the United States says that plane was in Turkish airspace for 30 seconds or less, 30 seconds or less, and a member of NATO shoots a plane out of the sky? Is that protocol? It seems shocking.
SPIDER MARKS, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Yes, well, it's not protocol, Erin.
[19:35:01] The issue is the attitude of the aircraft, what that aircraft is trying to do is what's paramount. Obviously, the Turkish F-16, U.S.-built F-16, had a position and had an attitude on that aircraft that it was able to pick it up, paint it, identify it as something other than a friendly aircraft. But there are additional steps you can go through before you would engage to shoot to kill.
In a situation like this where you see an aircraft, warning shots are not to be used almost at all. It's part of the protocol. But you don't use warning shots. Warning shots are if somebody is wandering through your air space, you can't communicate with them and you want to say I think you're off-course, you need to move away.
BURNETT: Right. MARKS: In this particular case, they need to be able to
determine what the attitude of the Russian aircraft was. It probably was not in an attack posture. And, clearly, the Russians right now are looking at this thing trying to figure out, wait a minute, we've got a U.S. aircraft and we now had the first gun fight between a U.S. aircraft and former Soviet Russian aircraft and they are going to do forensics to figure out what went wrong.
The key issue, Erin, is that the Russians are hugely provocative. They have been provocative hundreds of times before. They are somewhat cavalier with their use of military force. We saw this in Crimea.
MARKS: We've seen it elsewhere. So, we have -- when they poke us in the eye, when they go after other elements to try to provoke a response, you end up with something like this.
BURNETT: Bob, again you see someone yelling "Allahu Akbar" shooting a Russian pilot as he floats defenseless to the ground in that parachute, you have used word "World War III".
BAER: And, Erin, I stick by that. This mosaic in the Middle East of conflict is getting out of control. It's not just Russia and Turkey, it's Iran and Saudi Arabia.
It is expanding rather than contracting and nobody has a strategic plan. I mean, we have to do something now, sit everybody down and figure this out. The way things are going now, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a wider conflict between Turkey and Russia unless we can step in the middle of this.
They need to deconflict right now. The Turks are determined to protect those people in northern Syria. If the Russians continue to bomb them, the Turks will respond in a like manner.
BURNETT: And, of course, that puts the United States in a very tough spot, obviously, Turkey with a NATO member. Thanks to both of you.
And OUTFRONT next, an FBI bulletin warning ISIS may be eyeing soft targets in the U.S. as New York City desperately adds more detectives to counter the threats ahead of the crucial Thanksgiving Day parade.
Plus, more of our breaking story tonight, video just released showing a black teen riddled with bullets at the hand of a Chicago police officer six seconds after arriving on the scene, shooting 16 times to kill.
We'll be right back.
[19:41:56] BURNETT: Unprecedented force tonight. The NYPD preparing a never-before-seen level of force for the Thanksgiving Day parade. The city on high alert after ISIS threatened to attack. For the first time ever, about 200 heavily armed officers from a new counterterror unit will deploy in addition to thousands of police officers and special forces type teams.
The news comes as a new U.S. intelligence bulletin reveals the Paris attackers scoped out the concert hall and restaurants before their massacre. Law enforcement agencies across the United States now being warned to watch for would-be ISIS plotters doing the same.
OUTFRONT now, our justice correspondent Pamela Brown.
Pamela, the bulletin mentioned specific types of targets at risk in the United States for ISIS attack. What are they?
PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. Law enforcement here in the U.S. is increasingly concerned in the wake of the Paris attacks that homegrown violent extremists will be emboldened to launch attacks targeting members of the general public, people who are out enjoying their days, going to the movie, going to restaurants.
This is an evolution, because prior to Paris, a lot of the concern was that ISIS would try to attack people affiliated with the government. But after Paris, the concern now has changed.
And here's what the bulletin says: ISIL may expand efforts to conduct attacks against soft targets based on the success of the Paris attacks. That extends beyond targeting the government, military and law enforcement officials and facilities. It also says that while it may embolden home grown violent extremists to do something similar, the larger scale attacks, coordinated teams, would be more likely in a place like Europe because of its proximity to Syria and Iraq -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Pamela, thank you very much. Of course, as you mentioned, Syria and Iraq, one of the biggest debates after the Paris attacks, is whether the U.S. should allow Syrian refugees to enter the country.
OUTFRONT now, the dean of the Bush School at Texas A&M University, Ambassador Ryan Crocker, former ambassador to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kuwait and Lebanon.
You know more about this, sir, than anyone else. Ambassador, more than half of the nation's governors are demanding a halt to Syrian refugees. The American people agree. More than half of them say they should stay out of the U.S. even if they are screened. The House passed a bill to do this.
You say this is wrong.
RYAN CROCKER, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SYRIA, IRAQ, AND AFGHANISTAN: Thanks for having me, Erin.
I fully understand security concerns in the wake of the Paris and Beirut attacks. I have those concerns, too. But I think we have to measure carefully what the threat is likely to be and where it comes from.
I just don't think it's going to come from a refugee population that is going to be more carefully screened and vetted than any other category of foreigners seeking to gain admission to this country. It's a two-year process. So, if Islamic State wants to get terrorists into the country, they are going to be far better off using terrorists who have passports that don't require visas -- visa waiver program in effect for Western Europe. They don't need a visa or any vetting or screening at all.
[19:45:02] So, we need to be sure we are looking at the right threat --
CROCKER: -- and not turning our back and looking at something that isn't going to come at us.
BURNETT: So, President Obama, though, said he wants 10,000 refugees. Let me just make it clear to our audience, that you are putting your money where your mouth is. You are saying 100,000, ten times more than the president wants.
He's already putting out a controversial number. You think it should be more.
When I was in Paris, a Syrian refugee told me how easy it would be to get a passport, a fake passport, $750. He said it was no problem. Here is how he explained it.
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SAKHER EDRIS, SYRIAN REFUGEE: It would cost you about 700 euros.
BURNETT: Seven hundred euros.
EDRIS: Or less, maybe. It depends on negotiation.
BURNETT: I could have one of these --
EDRIS: By your name, even an American name, even Arabic name, or any name.
BURNETT: Anything I want.
EDRIS: Your photo, your name. Anything you want.
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BURNETT: People hear that, and, of course, Ambassador, it's very frightening. And I know you say even if you were to get a fake Syrian passport and pose as a refugee, it would take time. We also hear, of course, though that refugee stories are to be taken at face value. They say this is my story and customs officials are told not to question it. CROCKER: Erin, the vetting process is a long one. It's not, you
know, 10 questions in one afternoon. This goes on for months and months and months.
I just don't think that an organization like Islamic State is going to want to put an operative in that position where the chances of detection are far greater than if that individual was just seeking a tourist visa.
And, once again, why bother with masquerading as a refugee or buying a fake passport when they've got several thousand fighters who have genuine West European passports?
CROCKER: That's where the threat is. That's what we've got to look at.
BURNETT: And you wrote an op-ed in "The Wall Street Journal" about this. You said, quote, "I call it al Qaeda version 6.0. The Islamic State is far better organized, equipped and funded than the original. They're more experienced, more numerous. Several thousand carry Western passports, including American ones. All terrorists have to do is get on a plane and head west."
Is it that easy?
CROCKER: Obviously, there are controls in place. A number of these European passport holders are on watch lists, no-fly lists. But I doubt if all of them are. It only takes a few to get through.
So, you know, it is not a cakewalk into this country. We've done a tremendous amount with security and intelligence since 9/11. My point simply is that the threat is far more likely to come from individuals trained and determined who hold valid European passports or perhaps even American passports than it's likely to come from a refugee who would undergo two years worth of screening and vetting.
BURNETT: All right. Ambassador, thank you very much. I appreciate your taking the time tonight, making your case here.
And OUTFRONT next, what's happen in Chicago. Live pictures. Protesters are gathering after police released just within the past hour the video of a black teen shot 16 times by a police officer. We're going to be live on the ground in a moment.
[19:52:27] BURNETT: Breaking news: live pictures, as you can see, these are protests on the streets of Chicago. Just people gathering at this moment. They are gathering because video was released just within the past hour of Laquan McDonald, a black teenager, being shot and killed by a white officer.
In the video, which I want to warn you is graphic, you will see McDonald walking down the street, OK? Walking down the street, we're told he's carrying a small knife, they had gotten a 911 call about him possibly trying to break in to cars or trucks in a parking lot.
Then, to the left of the screen, you see an officer. We'll pause it here. This officer arrives on the scene. He's not the officer whose dash cam video is capturing this.
So, this new officer shows up, and within six seconds of arriving, shoots McDonald and opens fire. McDonald falls after what appears to be the first shot. Prosecutors say within the next couple of shots and then, of course, there were 16 shots total.
Officer Van Dyke has been charged with first-degree murder. Important to emphasize this -- he has been charged. Chicago's mayor is calling for peace tonight.
Ryan Young is OUTFRONT on the ground.
And, Ryan, what's happening where you are?
RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Well, you know what? We are moving down Michigan Avenue right now, and we can see police officers stationed throughout the city. In fact, we saw more than 40 bicycle officers who were stationed at each intersection as we moved through. Several different police officers were ready just in case anything happens.
But we knew those protesters were going to try to shut down a couple of streets. They've been talking about what they would do to show the displeasure with this video. Now, we know about 300 protesters at East Roosevelt.
We've been talking to these people over the last week or so just about the idea of what is going to happen when this video is released because so many people were hurt. So many people were bracing themselves for this. A lot of protesters we talked to said they wanted to the protests to remain peaceful. So, they wanted to show some sort of disruption but not get involved with anything with the police.
Now, we've also been told they will probably have some Black Friday protests as well. We know once this video was released, people are going to take to the streets once again. We talked to McCarthy right before he went out there with his officers, superintendent Garry McCarthy. He was calling for peace.
He says the process is working. The officer has been charged with murder. The video has been released. No one is trying to hide this and he wants to make sure the public understands that there's a process that's involved here and it's all taking place. The criminal justice system is working.
But for others, people say the police department is trying to hide this. Some of the protesters were making sure before we left today that they understood -- we understood that they were going to be out there for the next few hours making sure that the police department heard that they want things to change in the city.
[19:55:06] BURNETT: They certainly want things to change. I was about to say, the video, incredibly disturbing to watch.
The officer has been charged with first-degree murder. You see here, we'll show it again on the screen as McDonald is running down the street, an officer comes out, opens fire and shoots 16 times.
McDonald, of course, was dead on the scene there, as you see, walking away from police, not towards them, and being shot and murdered.
We'll be right back.
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