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Polls Close In Brexit Vote, Awaiting Results; Trump Traveling Tonight To Scottish Golf Course; Supreme Court Blocks Obama Immigration Plan; Clinton Calls Ruling "Heartbreaking" And Unacceptable"; Dems End Sit-In After House Avoids Gun Vote; Rep. Jolly Introduces "No Fly, No Buy" Compromise; Police Van Driver Not Guilty In Freddie Gray Death; Declassified: The Search For Saddam Hussein; Declassified: Untold Stories Of American Spies Airs Sunday On CNN; New CNN Series Examines Real Espionage Stories. Aired 9-10p ET
Aired June 23, 2016 - 21:00 ET
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[21:01:01] ANDERSON COOPER, CNN AC360 ANCHOR: Thanks for joining us for this live hour of "360". A big hour ahead here and overseas as where the votes are being counted right now, and whether the United Kingdom will be the first country to ever to leave the European Union and perhaps throw a big chunk of the global economy into uncertain waters.
UK is where Donald Trump is headed specifically to Scotland on business not politics. And of course, there's today Supreme Court tied vote upholding a challenge President's Obama's immigration plan, a non decision, decision that leaves as many as 5 million people in limbo.
Now, we've got a team of correspondents tonight and all those stories, as well as your panel of a legal experts and political professional. We begin though with immigration the court and CNN chief political correspondent Dana Bash.
So, talk to us about this ruling, explain what it does, and who it directly affects?
DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, as you said if the president's executive order would have given about 5 million undocumented immigrants the ability to come out of the shadows and begin the process of applying to stay legally in the United States. A lower court judge issued an injunction to stop those programs from going into effect, because the Supreme Court deadlocked today 4-4, it means that the lower court ruling stays in effect, and the undocumented immigrants many of whom were brought to the U.S. illegally as children will stay in legal limbo at least until the end of the Obama administration.
COOPER: And the ruling is just as much about presidential authority and executive action as about the specifics in the plan, right? BASH: That's exactly right. It's really not about substance and the substance of the issue which of course is letting undocumented immigrants stay illegally. This is about the way President Obama went about it unilaterally without Congress.
You remember not long after our President Obama issued these executive orders in 2014, a group of states, 25 led by Texas challenge this in court, they argued that the president going alone is unconstitutional. Republicans in the House signed on to it. They made the same argument. And the president back then said wait a minute, I'm just doing this because I'm frustrated. Congress is deadlock. The Senate passed immigration reform. The House never brought it up. But it was interesting the fact that the president bypass Congress really united Republicans and opposition.
Today, Anderson, even those who are for immigration reform were applauding what the court did just because again ...
BASH: ... the executive action that the president used to do it.
COOPER: All right, thanks, Dana. The reaction came swiftly from the president. CNN's Michelle Kosinski is at the White House more on that.
So President Obama, made some remarks soon after the ruling came down. Certainly a blow to the president, what he had hoped would be a big part of his legacy.
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Right, Anderson. I mean this was not good. And the president's disappointment was absolutely palpable. Now, he, himself conceded that he's really know hit the limit in what he can do on immigration at least through executive action. That said, his original executive action on immigration that effected many people who were brought here as kids, those policies remain in place.
Also the president insisted today that enforcement priorities would again remain in place, and that means that many of the people who were affected by -- what would have happen have the court ruled in his favor, by just expanded executive action. They're not exactly by any means going to be top targets for deportation.
And also remember, the court didn't rule on whether the president had overstepped his legal bounds, even though they came very close to doing so. So for the president, it is not a complete loss. What he wants to do now is hit Republicans, blame them for this, and urge people who feel the same way he does to exercise their right to vote in November. Listen.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PRESIDENT: We're going to have to make a decision about whether we are a people who tolerate hypocrisy of the system where the workers who pick our fruit or make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law or whether we're going to give them a chance just like our fore bearers had a chance to take responsibility and give their kids a better future.
[21:05:00] We're going to have to decide whether we are a people who accept the cruelty of ripping children from their parents' arms or whether we actually value families.
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KOSINSKI: Yeah, this is very clearly in the hands of the next Supreme Court justice, the next Congress, and the next president. And President Obama was saying exactly that. He also made another very thinly veiled refer to Donald Trump saying you can't pretend you're going to deport 11 million people, you can't say you're going to build a wall. He called those fantasies, Anderson.
COOPER: President also spoke today about the refusal of Republicans and Congress to consider Supreme Court nominee Judge Merrick Garland.
KOSINSKI: Yeah, this is another opportunity, a perfect opportunity for him to slam Republicans heart. He didn't hold back on his language either. He said the Republicans were willfully preventing the Supreme Court from functioning the way the founders intended. He said that they're using partisan politics to jeopardize the impartiality and the integrity of the entire justice system. In his words, America should not let that stand.
It was interesting to hear from the press office of the White House say to, saying that, you know, this is letting the dysfunction in Congress infect, not affect, but infect the judiciary, Anderson.
COOPER: All right, Michelle Kosinski, Michelle, thanks very much from the White House. More of politics, are you agree or disagree with how the justices voted? Hard to imagine this (inaudible) is already a major voting issue this year, even bigger. Hillary Clinton holds in a enormous edge with Latino voters.
Right now Donald Trump as you know has made illegal immigration the centerpiece of his campaign. Jeff Zeleny, is covering the Clinton reaction. He joins us now. So, how did Clinton respond?
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, as the president sort of walked around Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton addressed it head on here. This is what she said. Take a look at this. She say this decision is also a stark reminder of the harm Donald Trump would do to our families, our communities and our country. He has called the Mexican immigrants rapists and murders, he has called for creating a deportation force to tear 11 million away from their families and their homes.
So, Anderson, she's going square directly into this issue here. And this will become a central issue of this general election campaign. I mean, obviously, Donald Trump may not have been the Republican nominee but for this immigration issue being front and center here. The Clinton campaign believes they can use this to their political advantage. But also some warnings from the Republican side here is. The courts have essentially said that the president has overstepped his authority, so that is a warning to her, because she wants to do even more than this president has done.
COOPER: Right, I mean, as you said, I mean she's clearly hoping to use this to her advantage with Hispanic voters.
ZELENY: Without question. And if you look at the battleground states, just looking at the pure raw politics of this, look at a state like Nevada, like Colorado, like Florida, key battleground states with the highest percentage of Hispanic voters in country in battleground states. The Clinton campaign believes this is a winner for them politically speaking here. They believe that the next appointees to the Supreme Court who may decide something like this in the future as well as the White House are key to this year.
So, the Clinton campaign sees only up side of this and Republicans admittedly are worried about the changing demographics in the country here for the meeting ahead long with Donald Trump.
COOPER: All right, Jeff, thanks for reporting. Donald Trump had less to say about this today, perhaps because he was getting ready to leave the country heading overseas.
Jim Acosta joins us from Turnberry in Scotland outside one of the Donald Trump's golf resorts. So, Jim, why is Trump making this trip and why making it now?
JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: It's a pretty unusual time, Anderson, with Donald Trump sagging in the polls, lagging in fund-raising. You would think he would be back in the United States. According to those or attending to those demands.
But instead, he's making what is essentially a business trip to come over here to this golf resort that he has refurbished behind me. It's Trump Turnberry. They pumped millions of dollar into this property to refurbish it. And he's essentially here tomorrow for a ribbon cutting that his family is going to be attending, he'll helicopter in, cut the ribbon with some other notable VIPs, and then afterwards we're told he's going to take a few questions at a press conference, but this is a highly unusual move. He is not going to be meeting with any foreign leaders over here. He's not going to be meeting with British Prime Minister David Cameron or even the top government officials here in Scotland. And as you know, Anderson, the prime minister here in the UK David Cameron has been sharply critical of Donald Trump questioning his proposal for a ban to -- ban all Muslims coming in to the U.S. temporarily. David Cameron had said that that is wrong head it, and then, Donald Trump responded that perhaps the U.S. and UK won't have a special relationship like they had for decades now.
And in addition, to that, Anderson, he's heading up to a separate golf property in Aberdeen, Scotland where there's been a lot of controversy. Donald Trump at one point tried to use the Scottish version of eminent domain to take property up there, that didn't work out. And so, he clashed with some of the residents. And some of those residents have raised Mexican flags to protest his stance on immigration. So as Donald Trump stirs up controversy in the U.S. he has done some of the same over here in the UK
COOPER: I mean, it is remarkable for a presidential candidate at this point in the campaign to be taking time off to pursue a ribbon cutting essentially for business prospect. How is the campaign explaining this or spinning it whatever verb you want to use?
[21:10:09] ACOSTA: Right. Well, I did talk to a Trump source earlier today who said, you know, what, this is a property that Donald Trump has invested millions of dollars into, you know, he does have a day job outside of running for president of the United States. It has his name on it. He wants to make sure that this property is up to his standards so you can't really hold that against him. But keep in mind, Anderson, when politicians go overseas, there is a tendency sometimes to create gaps.
I remember 4 years ago, do you remember it well when Mitt Romney went overseas and went to the UK, went to Poland, went to Israel, and he was almost one gaffe after another.
And so, you know, if you're not careful, these trips can offer all sorts of pitfalls that can create terrible headlines around the world.
COOPER: Jim Acosta, Jim, thanks very much.
ACOSTA: You got it.
COOPER: A lot more ahead. The panel weighs in, next on politics, and today's court deadlock. Then, later Democrats stage a sit-in demanding a vote on the gun control bill. We'll hear from a Republican, whose looking for a compromise.
And later, the biggest acquittal yet in the death of Freddie Gray which ignited the city of Baltimore, last year, I'll talk to the Gray's family attorney about the possibility that none of the six police officers will be convicted of anything.
COOPER: Welcome back, there was just nine words in the Supreme Court ruling today, and letting a lower court ruling stand, blocking presidential action on the immigration.
Nine words, countless implications, back with the panel and joining us this hour, Van Jones, CNN Political Commentator and former Obama adviser.
[21:15:00] So, Van we haven't heard from the night. Who do you think has the political advantage on the wake of this deadlock on immigration? I mean, Trump and Clinton are both doubling down and they have arguments. Trump can say, and look the judicial process has played out and Democrats have come up short.
VAN JONES, FORMER OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, sure and well the Supreme Court gives Obama a big black eye that they also give and Hillary Clinton a big bouquet of roses. You can now say goodbye to Nevada, goodbye to Colorado, goodbye to Florida. Frankly, goodbye to New York and California too if you want to throw it in there if you're Donald Trump because you're now going to have a very energized Latino turnout.
One thing, I think though, it's really bad for the country overall because I think even if we disagree, we need at least to understand each other. People think the president was just kind of overreaching for his own sake. I think from the White House point of view, they say listen, we hurt the Latino community, we flooded the border with agents, with technology. We deported two million people trying to show the Republicans we were serious about borders and security to get a deal, and then no deal was forthcoming.
So having hurt the Latino community with executive action, they tried to do something to help them, to repair some of that damage. This isn't somebody who's overreaching, who is a dictator. He reached out to Congress first. He did a lot to try to -- to knockdown that border, to lock down that border, did lock down that border and got nothing for it.
COOPER: Kayleigh, is that how you see it?
KAYLEIGH MCENANY, TRUMP SUPPORTER: No, I don't see it that way and, you know, here's what we need to look at today the Fifth Circuit, by the way said that the president's actions were "manifestly contrary to the statute passed by Congress." That is a huge deal.
We have a president who didn't get his way with Congress and his excuse now is to use executive power to get his way. That is completely outside of the bounds of the constitution, it's unacceptable if he denied himself this power 22 times. And you cannot circumvent Congress, if you're a constitution abiding president.
COOPER: And Tara, you're oppose Donald Trump and you agree with Kayleigh on this.
TARA SETMAYER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yeah, I mean I agree on the immigration issue, I worked closely on this issue when I worked on Capitol Hill. It's something I worked for a member of Congress from Southern California.
I have been to the border. You know, I helped save two border patrols and being unjustly imprisoned under the Bush Administration for doing their jobs, and I take issue with Van's characterization of what the Obama Administration has done here with the illegal immigration.
It's a mess. They can claim, that they have more deportations but that's because they cook the books and they were claiming they were counting people to being turned away at the border as deportations. That's never been done before.
Also, we have 39 percent increase in legal and illegal immigration over the last two years in this country. We had tens of thousands of illegal immigrant -- kids flooding over the reporter who are now allowed to stay. There's no -- the ICE agents are furious, they can't do their jobs. I mean it is a nightmare what's going on top of what President Obama has done with this executive overreach ...
COOPER: I want him to have respond.
SETMAYER: ... because he had a temper tantrum because Congress wouldn't give him what he wanted.
COOPER: Van, Van.
JONES: Yeah, look we can go back and forth about this, you know, there are things called facts, we actually have a negative immigration from Mexico now of over years past. We had the lowest immigration rate since the 1970s.
The president has done a tremendous job. The reality is though, both sides do agree. We have to have a better system. And the Senate, the Republicans in the Senate and the president and the American people want to go forward, and the Republicans in the House wouldn't let anything happen. So the president took some steps.
Now, to be clear, some of those steps have been left in place, so there is Supreme Court left in place. A lot of the work with dreamers and others, but he did get his hands spank by the most conservative ...
JONES: ... towards of this circuit. The most conservative court did spank his hand but that's the most conservative target, not the Supreme Court.
COOPER: And Judge, before you get into we on the immigration issue which we could spend hours on Joe, I mean, are you concerned just from a political standpoint for your candidate for Donald Trump that this plays into Democrats' hands for the to say ...
JOSEPH BORELLI, CO-CHAIR DONALD TRUMP NY CAMPAIGN: No, let me just get ...
COPPER: (Inaudible) and rally the base as Van said.
BORELLI: Van said, you know, let's talk about facts, let's talk about the constitution. Article II Section 3, says the president has to take care laws are faithfully executed. We have immigration laws. The president was trying to usurp that power and create a class of people who have given amnesty.
Now, your question, you see two wonderful women to my right who have differing views on Donald Trump, different views on immigration. The Republican Party it self has different views. Some people want all illegal immigrants to be deported, some people want amnesty and path to citizenship.
We all agree that before any of that can happen, before Congress can act -- essentially a wall or some form of border security has to happen. This is an issue that unites the Republican and so much gets made by the left over how in disarray the Republicans are ...
COOPER: You don't think this hurts Donald Trump among Latino voters in Nevada, in Colorado?
BORELLI: Not all and people who are Latino, I think pure research did a study in 2013 that said only 45 percent of Latinos thought illegal immigration was a positive thing for our country. So it's not unanimous opinion amongst everyone.
COOPER: Right but it's not just Donald Trump have an illegal immigration, he is also about deporting 11 million people who are actually ...
SETMAYER: It's the way he is doing it. I mean, you have to and it's ridiculous to think that the border secure now, Van, I'm sorry but the border is not more secure under Barack Obama and most of that the net negative may be from Mexico but that doesn't count Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras which is where are bulk of those the immigrant came from because there is different law that applies to them.
[21:20:15] But, you know that Van. But as far as Donald Trump is concerned, look, this is one of those -- it is the issue that propelled him into popularity in the Republican primary, it's a very emotional issue. It needs to be fixed. Our immigration system is a disaster. But in his inflammatory way of going about it hasn't hurt that effort on the part of Republicans.
COOPER: Let me bring in Gloria.
GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: This question of overreach, presidential overreach that Republicans has call the imperial presidency and that's a very potent issue. But I think the problem Donald Trump has on this, is that there is a question of what his presidency would be like. Would he also want to overreach? And this is an issue quite frankly that Paul Ryan, the Republican speaker of the House has with Donald Trump and has spoken to Donald Trump about the separation of power. And what would you do, for example, with the temporary ban on Muslims. How would you enact that? Would you try and do something like that through executive order and executive action?
SETMAYER: For building a wall, for building a wall.
COOPER: Let get Richard get in well.
RICHARD SOCARIDES, CLINTON SUPPORTER: Just, I mean, talk about overreach rather than building a wall, barring an entire class of people because of the religion they believe in, I mean, those are crazy ideas. And Van is actually -- absolutely right, I mean, what this decision does is it helps keep front and center of the campaign, the immigration issue. And the interesting thing about this, this is a policy issue on which the Democrats and Republicans are in completely different extremes.
So, I mean, that we, the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama believe that people who are here need to have a path to citizenship and that Congress we -- and that Congress, yes, we would like Congress to act, but I think the president only acted in this limited way which the court did not overrule, but which -- just decided on a procedural issue today ...
SOCARIDES: ... that Obama acted only in this limited way because Congress had not acted. But clearly the Democrats and Republicans could not be further on opposite.
MCENANY: That's no excuse. Congressional inaction is no excuse for flagrantly violating the constitution.
SOCARIDES: Well, congressional action ...
COOPER: Let her respond, let her.
MCENANY: As president of the United States, you have to derive your power from one or two sources. Article II in the constitution, naturalization is not there that's Article I in a congressional power or statute. And the Fifth Circuit Ruled and showed painstakingly this is directly contrary to the statute.
BORGER: But the Supreme Court didn't say that the president flagrantly violated the constitution. You say what the Supreme Court did was nothing.
SOCARIDES: I would add to that that when the ...
SETMAYER: What the president did wasn't small. The president tried to do is circumvent Congress and give basically legal status to 5 million people, that means Social Security numbers, being able to work, eligible for welfare benefits, earned income tax credit. He can't do that.
SOCARIDES: All I would say is that when Congress fails to act repeatedly on such an important issue ...
BORELLI: Which is certainly for to nothing.
SOCARIDES: ... the president must act.
SETMAYER: And not create wall.
COOPER: Van I want to respond, and then we have to go.
SETMAYER: That's not American politics.
JONES: Well, listen. First of all, I think it is important that we recognize exactly what Gloria said, the Supreme Court basically did nothing, and it let stand the most conservative court's opinion about this. We now still have to wait to hear what the full court would say.
COOPER: All right we got to leave it there. I want to thank all our panels.
And just ahead, we're going to have the latest on UK vote on staying on the European Union or leaving. All ready financial markets around the world are getting nervous while the latest on the counting.
Also the sit-in staged by House of Democrats stalls up to 25 hours and they are vowing to renew their efforts up to 4th July recess. How the final hours of the protest played out?
[21:27:50] COOPER: An unprecedented sit-in by House Democrats ended today after 25 hours. They vowed to stay until a gun control bill was put to a vote, the protest report by the mass shooting in Orlando 12 days ago.
Now earlier this week, of course the Senate rejected four gun control measures. House Democrats say they aren't giving up, while critics say their tactics are hurting bipartisan efforts on gun control. Here's Sunlen Serfaty.
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REP. PAUL RYAN, HOUSE SPEAKER: What permission the gentleman from Kentucky Mr. Roger's seeks recognition?
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: 25 hours after seizing control of the House floor, the no bill, no break protest is taking a break.
REP. JOHN LEWIS, (D) GEORGIA: We must never, ever give up or give in. We must keep the faith and we must come back here on July ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The 5th.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's right.
LEWIS: ... more determined than it's ever before.
SERFATY: Democrats who vowed not to take a break are doing just that, but promising to restart the push for new gun control measures in the wake of the Orlando terror attack. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.
SERFATY: And threatening to restart the sit-in on the floor after a two week recess.
REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: We cannot stop until we get a bill, until we walk is passed. This isn't about politics. It's not about elections. It's not about campaigns. It's about the safety of the American people.
SERFATY: And in the Senate, another fight. Republican Senator Susan Collins failing to move forward her bill seen as a bipartisan compromise to prevent those on the no fly list from buying guns.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the House stand adjourn ...
SERFATY: Earlier this morning, the Republican leadership in the house adjourned for recess, looking to draw to a close the act of defiance from Democrats in the House. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan clearly enraged.
RYAN: This is the people's house. This is Congress, the House of Representatives. Oldest democracy in the world and they're descending it into chaos.
SERFATY: Blasting the Democrats' tactics and questioning their intentions.
RYAN: We watched a publicity stunned, a fund-raising stunt, a descend an institution many of us carry a great deal about. So yeah, I think it's such a very dangerous precedent.
[21:30:01] SERFATY: The sit-in on the floor live streaming on social media accounts of members, win in to dramatic in that times contentious moments.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Suspected and known to be a terrorist, what and why can you get a gun, a machine gun?
SERFATY: Going throughout the night.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm cold and I'm tired and I'm hungry, but these are feelings that I'm so privileged to have because so many will never feel that again.
SERFATY: With protests outside ...
SERFATY: ... and inside ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Radical Islam.
SERFATY: ... blasting into the late morning. (END VIDEO CLIP)
SERFATY: And today, Senator Susan Collins had some pretty pointed criticism for House Democrats and their sit-in protest. She says that she believes it serves as a setback to her own efforts to garner bipartisan support for her own bill. All of this just really underscoring how heated and how divisive this issue really is right now on Capitol Hill. Anderson?
COOPER: Yeah. Sunlen, thanks very much. Sunlen Serfaty.
The day before Democrats staged their sit-in House Republican David Jolly introduced a gun control measure to prevent people on a terror watch list from buying guns. He says, his bill addresses a fatal flaw of previous proposals. The congressman joins me tonight.
Congressman Jolly thanks very much for joining us. Now that the sit- in is over, I wonder what, if anything, do you think it accomplished? Speaker Ryan today said it was based on publicity stunt of fund- raising scheme.
REP. DAVID JOLLY, (D) FLORIDA: So, listen, I'm not sure it was the greatest tactics to actually accomplish a real change this week, but I understand the convictions of my friends on the Democratic side.
Look, I have questions with the policies they have offered, but I also have reservations about the inaction on our side. I'm somebody that thinks the House floor should be open. The members of congress should have opportunity to work the will of the American people and that includes on issues of national security and yes, on the Second Amendment and guns.
So, yeah, I spent a lot of time that on the House floor yesterday looking for opportunities, windows of opportunity with my Democratic colleagues to say how do we forge a consensus. Let's accomplish no fly, no buy. But also protect the Second Amendment and due process because I think we can do both.
COOPER: Well let's talk about how you want to do that because the bill the Democrats want to vote on which would have prevented suspected terrorists from buying guns. A lot of Republicans and, you know, libertarians and others took, you know, civil libertarians took issue with it because they thought ...
JOLLY: Of course.
COOPER: ... you know, infringed on a person's due process rights. You had a compromise or seemed to address that. Can you explain that?
JOLLY: So my legislation says no fly, no buy, but if you are turned down for purchase of a firearm based on being a watch list, the government has to notify you of that and you have 30 days for a due process hearing where the burden of proof is on the government by a preponderance of the evidence, 51, 49. The hearing is secret and all evidence has to be presented against the petition. COOPER: And 30 days seems like a reasonable link of time for a hearing to take place. There had been another proposal earlier I know -- I think 72 hours.
COOPER: 30 days seems to be a compromise.
JOLLY: It is. And understand this protects the law enforcement interests as well. If you're on a watch list, it does not notify you you're on the watch list. But if you go to purchase a firearm, which is a Second Amendment protected privilege for an American citizen then I do believe the government owes you a due process hearing if they deny that privilege.
Importantly, you know, when I first draft to this bill, it's about a week ago, I circulated it among my colleagues before I introduced it. I said help me make it better. You know, we can accomplish no fly, no buy and due process. Help me make it better.
So I've also added a look back provision offered by Democrats in the Senate, that says, if the FBI was investigating somebody like Omar Mateen and closed the investigation, but they later go out to purchase a firearm, let's notify the FBI. So, that they're made aware that perhaps this individual should be looked at again. That's now in my legislation as well.
COOPER: So the House expected to reconvene July 5th. What needs to happen to actually get a vote on your bill?
JOLLY: You know I'm from Florida. We left the Orlando area shortly after the attack. We left the state that was unified in mourning, a nation resolved to confront this evil we face and the insecurity we face and I write in the Congress bitterly divided. It's wrong. Let's reflect the unity of the American people. Let's bring up several votes. If it's not my bill, that's fine. Let's bring up other options. Let the Congress work its will on behalf of the American people.
COOPER: Congressman Jolly, we'll continue to follow it. Thank you, sir.
JOLLY: Thank you, Anderson. Good to be with you.
COOPER: Well just ahead tonight, there's breaking news polls closed and early results on historic Brexit referendum. It's starting to come in across the UK We'll get an early read from CNN Chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour.
[21:38:40] COOPER: Pivotal day across the pond. Voters decided whether United Kingdom should leave the European Union, a referendum with enormous implications, not just for the UK. The vote counting has started. The final result is not expected to be announced until Friday morning. Our Chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour joins me now with the latest. Christiane you have been following this closed and after a long time, the polls closed nearly five hours ago. Any sense at which way the voters leading?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It is being a really, really knife edge see-saw for the last several hours. You know, before results formally started coming in, there was expectations that remain would win in the close vote of the pound serge. Well in the intervening several hours, we've had a lot of leave, leave the EU votes being counted from North of England, some from the southeast. I'm going heavily towards leave.
Now, as I'm talking to you right now remain is meniscally microscopically ahead and we simply don't know where this is all going to end. The big, big question is the turnout and how London will do, and whether the margins in London are enough to offset those in the north which have gone for leave. Every course in every vote counts and this is -- it's a referendum. It's not general election. It's literally every vote counts.
COOPER: Yeah, I was just working in France yesterday and there are a bunch of British citizens around me who had made sure to vote before they left in order to get their vote convict because it's really is that close.
[21:40:05] And Christiane, the Obama administration clearly wants UK to stay in the EU. Can you just talk a little bit about why this vote matters for the United States? I mean, is that simply economics, security related? Is it all of the above?