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Republicans Speak Out Against Trump; Shocking Video of Officer Beating Unarmed Black Man; Trump's Long Relationship with Twitter. Aired 11:30-12p ET
Aired August 18, 2017 - 11:30 ET
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[11:34:02] KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm sure the president doesn't care about this, but Al Gore has one-word piece of advice for President Trump. Here it is.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you had to give Trump one piece of advice, what would it be?
AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Resign.
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BOLDUAN: The former vice president promoting his new film, "An Inconvenient Sequel." He said he had hoped the president would change his mind on climate change, but that hasn't happened.
Joining me to discuss, not climate change, but the state of politics, Patrick Murphy, former Democratic congressman from Florida.
Congressman, it's great to see you. Thanks for coming in.
PATRICK MURPHY, (D), FORMER CONGRESSMAN: Thank you.
A snappy one-liner. No indication the president is considering that. Is what Al Gore said, it that constructive? Is that helpful?
MURPHY: Interestingly enough, I've heard a lot of people starting to talk about it, that there might be an opportunity for the president to save face, save his family's name, even save his business empire. While it's funny and a good punch line, a guy as narcissistic as Donald Trump, you wonder what he could say. If this is ever realistic, probably not, but he may want to save face at some point.
[11:35:05] BOLDUAN: Congressman, I would place a large wager of $1 with you, he will not be resigning.
MURPHY: The real question is, will me make four years? How does it unravel? Is it really a four-year term? Is he going to be impeached? What happens along the way. If it continues at this pace, this country is going to be a mess. BOLDUAN: Let's talk about what's happening along the way. Let's talk
about what is happening right now. A lot of Republicans are coming out to speak out against what the president said. Bob Corker questioning the president's competence. Tim Scott saying he lost, compromising his moral authority. And the man you ran against, Marco Rubio, a string of tweets. He said this, "Mr. President, you cannot allow white supremacist to share only part of the blame." He said even a lot more. He was one of the first to call the president out by name. Do you give Marco Rubio credit?
MURPHY: Of course, I do. The broader question is only over a dozen Republicans have come out and gone after President Trump on this. There's over 200 and some in the Congress. In this day and age, it shouldn't be an act of bravery to speak out against racism. We must go a step further and actually call out the president and then introduce legislation that does something about this. I think Americans really expect more from our president, who should be the moral compass, the moral leader in this conversation.
BOLDUAN: You are calling on more Republicans to speak out. Folks that have also not spoken out forcefully at the president, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Should they?
MURPHY: They have their own, I guess, things to debate internally. President Obama --
BOLDUAN: You could say the same thing about Republicans, Congressmen.
MURPHY: They are in office, right? President Obama and Secretary Clinton aren't in office right now. They are being intentionally quiet right now for --
BOLDUAN: You are talking a moral compass, you don't think --
MURPHY: Can you imagine the conversation? President Obama had to speak out every 10 minutes about this president, it would be exhausting --
BOLDUAN: He said, in his final press conference before he left, the tradition of letting the -- go away and let the president be the new president, he would abide by, unless it reached to a new level like the moral compass of the country was in question. This does not raise the level?
MURPHY: Of course, it does. I'm sure he's internally quite upset and saving his big come-out, I would say, at some point to lay out a litany of issues he has a problem with this president. From being in Congress four years, our country does face a moral crisis. There are far too members in Congress, on both sides of the aisle, continuing to put their party in front of their country. I've spoken to Republicans at numerous events the over the last few months that don't like President Trump. They will tell us if we are sitting here, we don't like this guy, but continue to put their party in front of what is best for the country.
BOLDUAN: Speaking of party, I have seen a lot of reports you're fundraising again. Are you thinking of running again?
MURPHY: No. I'm not. I'm not rushing it. I'm joining the private sector. I enjoyed public service but --
BOLDUAN: Never? Nothing? Not yet?
MURPHY: Not right now. Not this cycle. Maybe at some point I will. I don't have the bug right now. What President Trump is doing is making a mockery of the system. As much as I want to get in and fight, I think I can do more in the private sector right now and then find the right time.
BOLDUAN: Thanks for coming in. I appreciate your time.
MURPHY: Thank you. Appreciate it.
BOLDUAN: Thanks very much.
Coming up for us, a shocking, violent arrest caught on video. An officer slamming an unarmed black man to the ground and repeatedly punching him in the face, in the head. The officer now under investigation. We'll have the details coming up.
[11:42:48] BOLDUAN: The shocking video surfaces of an unarmed African-American man beaten by police. It started as a traffic stop. This man, Richard Hubbard, was behind the wheel. It quickly escalated into something more.
Let me play the dashcam video for you that was provided by a local newspaper, "The News Herald."
I want to warn you the video is hard to watch.
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OFC. MICHAEL AMIOTT, EUCLID POLICE DEPARTMENT: Step out. Face away from me. Face away from me.
AMIOTT: Get down.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop! Stop! (INAUDIBLE)
Baby, baby, listen to me. Baby, baby.
AMIOTT: Get back! Get back!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop! Please stop! Please stop! Please stop! Please stop! Stop!
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BOLDUAN: This incident came to light because of the next video taken by a bystander.
Again, very graphic.
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UNIDENTIFIED BOY: Mommy, what is he doing? What's he doing, Mommy?
UNIDENTIFIED BOY: Mommy, what is he doing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But he's punching him, though.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY: Is he punching him?
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BOLDUAN: Joining me now, CNN national correspondent, Brynn Gingras.
Brynn, that is tough to watch. What led to this? What do we know?
[11:44:40]BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN NATIOINAL CORRESPONDENT: What we know right now, I want to say, is the police officer, Euclid police officer is Michael Amiott. He is on paid administrative leave. Euclid is a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. He was the arresting officer in a traffic stop, which turned into that physical struggle with a 25-year-old man.
We are going to show you that police dashcam again. Again, it comes to us by a local newspaper called "The News Herald."
According to a statement by police, it happened last saturday. Richard Hubbard III was behind the wheel. Authorities pulled him over. Police say Hubbard began to physically resist arrest. And according to them, it took several officers to control him. But you can see for yourself, again, the kicking and punching that was part of this arrest. It is unclear from the video which officer Amiott is. But again, he is not working.
This is what, as Kate showed you, what Hubbard looked like in the booking photo. Police also claimed Amiott was treated for injuries as well.
The police department released a statement of what happened. But its chief, separately, on Facebook said, "I first want to sincerely apologize for not publicly responding in a more timely fashion. I want to personally assure everyone that this incident is being thoroughly investigated and reviewed."
Here is the thing, we also know Officer Amiott previously worked for another police department in a Cleveland suburb. That job only lasted nine months because Amiott resigned after falsifying a traffic stop.
So you can imagine the emotion this has been drawing up. We tried to reach out to Hubbard and haven't heard back. But the ACLU and NAACP are all getting involved. And it's horrifying.
BOLDUAN: It is under investigation.
Thanks, Brynn. Thanks for bringing details. Appreciate it.
Coming up for us, as Republican backlash grows over President Trump over his remarks over Charlottesville, the president is being rejected by the mother of the woman who was killed. Why she now says she does not want to speak with the president, in her own words.
[11:51:04] BOLDUAN: President Trump has a long relationship with Twitter. As a businessman, he used Twitter to promote himself and his projects. As a candidate, Candidate Trump used Twitter to rally supporters. And as president, he still tweets and tweets and tweets, of course. Watch this.
BILL WEIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: When it comes to American adversaries and Pyongyang or Moscow, following Donald Trump on Twitter, what worries you the most?
GEN. MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR & FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: If I'm the head of a hostile or even a friendly intelligence service, I've got a new office over here. Follow that account. Tell me what this man is saying. It's tremendously revealing. We know the president's hot buttons, his vulnerabilities, what upsets him. We know what he demands from his subordinates, loyalty. We even know his sleep patterns based upon his Twitter usage.
HAYDEN: That's a tremendous gift to a foreign member.
WEIR: All of those things somebody like Vladimir Putin, say, takes great pains to hide? HAYDEN: Oh, of course. Because you don't want to advantage the other
WEIR (voice-over): While lashing out at the "Washington Post," this tweet declassified a top-secret operation to arm Syrian rebels. Intentional or not, it's the kind of revelation that makes jaws drop in the capitols of both enemies and allies.
STEVE HALL, RETIRED CIA CHIEF OF RUSSIA OPERATIONS: I can guarantee you that there are liaison services right now, services that work with us, foreign intelligence services, who have probably decided to do a little self-editing, and we just don't know what he' going to do.
WEIR (on camera): They're withholding valuable information from the U.S.
HALL: I believe --
WEIR: -- out of the fear he might tweet it?
HALL: I believe that's probably -- probably happening.
BOLDUAN: This is already raising questions in my mind.
With me now, the man behind this special report, Bill Weir.
WEIR: He, Kate. Good to see you.
BOLDUAN: Thank you for bringing me the gift.
WEIR: A little light reading right here. These are all the president's tweets. They seem so temporary, all the digital musings, but these will be studied as the sign of our times for centuries.
WEIR: It's pages.
BOLDUAN: It's pages. It's several thousand.
WEIR: Yes, 1,313 pages.
BOLDUAN: Yes. And back here, just the tweets since becoming the 45th president of the United States. But it's so enlightening when you go to the beginning and see how it evolved, how he learned to weaponize it, when he first started attacking Barack Obama. And we talked to supporters, like Scott Adams, the "Dilbert" cartoonists, historians, spy chiefs, as you saw there, about the cost benefit of our first Twitter president.
BOLDUAN: When you really -- we all follow his Twitter feed. What really surprised you when you started digging into this?
WEIR: Just how you can see a couple weeks after that infamous White House Correspondents' Dinner heckling from Barack Obama is when he started launching attacks. It's almost this timeline of how aggressive they got. He would try lines. He tried, "We have to make American great again, the day after Barack Obama won re-election," which few people noticed at the time, but is a seminal moment in American history right now. And we also talked to a data scientist who did sentiment analysis. Based on the aggressive nature of the language, you can tell which were sent from his campaign staff, which were sent from him.
But he has tweeted himself in the foot. We examined what exactly he gets out of this and whether it will ever stop.
BOLDUAN: And does it -- everyone you talked to, did they give a sense of what this means for the next guy or gal? What this means for the next president?
WEIR: Yes. If you look back in presidential history, the ones we remembered didn't re-invent the form. Right? FDR wasn't the first in radio but he re-invented it. Barack Obama was really the first Twitter president, came under his. But Trump has defined himself. So social media going forward in politics, there's no putting that toothpaste back in the tube. Right? Whether somebody does it as combatively as this man, this sort of fire hose, raw unfiltered id, seemed unlikely.
[11:55:05] BOLDUAN: It's also fascinating, the more criticism he gets, he seems the more defiant he is about his Twitter.
WEIR: Exactly. It goes back -- I think, it's in his DNA. His father, Fred Trump, raised him to believe the worst thing than bankruptcy is obscurity. His father used to drop leaflets announcing his building projects over the city. It's like the early tweet? Right?
So he has this innate sense. And in all the years in New York tabloids of working the press, going around the press, and this idea that this machine that Jack Dorsey built in 2006, when "The Apprentice" was falling out of the top 50, they created this perfect storm with man, message and machine.
BOLDUAN: Can't wait to see it.
Great to see you, Bill.
WEIR: Thanks, Kate.
BOLDUAN: Some light reading for this weekend.
BOLDUAN: Watch this CNN special report, "Twitter and Trump," tonight 9:00 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
Coming up for us, we're following breaking news out of Barcelona. A manhunt underway for the driver of the van that plowed into that crowd yesterday afternoon killing 13 people. More than 100 injured still. Why the terror cell may be bigger than first thought.
Be right back.