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CRIME AND JUSTICE WITH ASHLEIGH BANFIELD

Urgent Manhunt, Deputy Found Dead In His Patrol Car, Gunman Is Now On The Run; New Bombshell, Search Warrants Cast Doubt On Ex-Alibi; Teacher Murdered; Million-Dollar Motive? Amber Holliman Was Murdered Two Days After Her Daughter`s Graduation; Rachel Deltondo`s Killer Still On The Lose; Teen & New Bride Hite Hitman To Kill Dad?; Cops: Crystal Methvin Arrested For Crystal Meth. Aired 6-8p ET

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST, HLN CRIME AND JUSTICE: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. This it "Crime and Justice." It isn`t a modern day

Bonnie and Clyde. Tonight a suspected killer is on the run. A woman, his alleged accomplice locked up. This after police say they shot a sheriff`s

deputy in Tennessee. Kaylee Hartung is tracking the story for us. Kaylee, the deputy was found dead in his cruiser?

KAYLEE HARTUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That is right, Ashleigh. This woman is behind bars, but is she talking? What was her relationship like with the

man who`s still on the run? We`ll tell you more about him and what to look for as this manhunt runs into a second night.

BANFIELD: Word is some pretty telling tattoos. We are going to show those to our audience as well. Thank you Kaylee.

Also happening tonight. Another pile of unbelievable search warrants made public in the hunt for Rachel DelTondo`s killer. Now police say there is a

tiny little problem with that ex-fiance`s alibi. Bernice Man is covering this story for us. Bernice, what`s wrong with his story?

BERNICE MAN, CRIME AND JUSTICE PRODUCER: Well, Ashleigh, that fiance says, he was at his apartment on the night of the murder. But police say they

haven`t been able to verify his story. But, Ashleigh, that might not be the only issue in that story.

BANFIELD: Well, if it`s Thursday there`s another issue with this story. Bernice, we`re going to check that out in a moment. We`re also covering

two disturbing arrest after the deaths of a prominent Texas Jeweler. His own teenage son and his son`s brand new teenage bride, both just 19,

accused of hiring a hit man. Our Kyle Peltz is covering this story. Kyle, why would this kid want his father dead?

KYLE PELTZ, CRIME AND JUSTICE PRODUCER: Ashleigh, one word, money. His dad was a Jeweler and according to court documents this teen stood to gain

as much as $8 million if his parents were dead.

BANFIELD: 8 million. Did I hear you right, $8 million?

PELTZ: $8 million.

BANFIELD: All right. We`ll look in to that and find out why so much money at stake in this story.

And also the Florida woman who was busted for possession of drugs. You`ll never guess what she had on her, but I will give you a clue, her given

name, her real given name is Crystal Methin.

Later on the hunter, a fugitive who reportedly shot his girlfriend in the head and set the house on fire, just days after that brother`s graduation

from high school. We are going to tell you where he could be tonight and why police are warning people out there right now that man in that picture

looks like the all-time family man. They say he could be armed and dangerous and anywhere.

First tonight, to Tennessee where another suspected killer is nowhere to be seen. Only this one is accused of killing a sheriff`s deputy and leaving

his bleeding body in the patrol car.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHERIFF JEFF BLEDSOE, DICKSON, TN: We consider him a definite threat to anyone in the community, anyone that is capable of murdering one of our

brothers, one of our servants in our community, Sergeant Daniel Baker, losing his life in this situation, we want people to know that is an urgent

and immediate threat to the public safety.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: This all started with a call about a suspicious vehicle on a rural road yesterday morning. And Sergeant Daniel Baker was the one who

got that call. The call to drive out there and check out that vehicle. But the problem is dispatch did not hear back from the sergeant. His

colleagues tracked down his patrol car using GPS, and they found it. It was 2 miles away in the woods. And seated inside that patrol car was the

lifeless body of that hero. But his colleagues also tracked down a suspect, a suspect who was hiding under a house nearby. A suspect who is

the woman on your screen. The woman they say was in that suspicious car. When her acquaintance gunned down Sergeant Baker. That acquaintance is

Joshua Wiggins. And Joshua Wiggins is still on the run tonight and make no mistake, he is wanted for murder.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BLEDSOE: We have a strong phase and the evidence on place to hold people accountable that is involved with this crime, this horrible murder. We

will move forward and our goal is to bring him in and have him in custody and have him before a court. And I sincerely pray that he will get the

maximum punishment and our court will be a terror to him for the evil he has done.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me now, CNN correspondent, Kaylee Hartung, also on the phone the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, PIO Josh Devine who`s on the

scene of this crime, and CNN law enforcement analyst and former assistant director of the U.S. Marshalls Art Roderick is with me and defense attorney

and CNNHLN legal analyst, Joey Jackson joins me live on the set as well.

Kaylee, first to you with the developments. This is an all-out manhunt. You do not kill a cop and have a really easy way getting away with it. Are

there any new leads tonight at 6:00 Eastern?

HARTUNG: Based on the most recent information we have tonight, Ashleigh, no there are not. We are about to move into the second night of this

manhunt. Authorities still saying there haven`t been any confirmed sightings of this man since he was seen. As you said, this is an all-out

manhunt. Hundreds of law enforcement are involved.

And at this point, tips have taken, we`re told, tips have taken many law enforcement out of that immediate area of Dixon County, two other states in

fact. The message that officials in Tennessee are broadcasting is that this man could be anywhere. There is a question of whether he is on foot

or in a vehicle. That they say they don`t have a degree of certainty of. Earlier today they said they believed there was a strong possibility he

could have been on foot. And so authorities are doing things in the Dixon County area like going door-to-door. There are k-9 dogs on the ground,

there are helicopters in the air and they are utilizing all of the technology that they have of their disposal of it.

BANFIELD: What you just said, yes, Kaylee, what you just said, that they mentioned something about him being on foot that stood out as the police

were talking to us today. I want our audience to hear from Dixon County Sheriff, Joe Bledsoe on that. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BLEDSOE: There`s nothing 100 percent that says that he is still in this area, but there`s nothing that says 100 percent that says he not. And just

based on the facts of what we have, we feel that he may be on foot in the area.

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BANFIELD: Sheriff Jeff Bledsoe, the Dixon County sheriff`s department saying he may be on foot. So at this point they said they were going door-

to-door, Kaylee, but there`s a bigger part of this story, because they have the alleged accomplice, a woman he was with and they are charging her with

the same thing they were charging him with and that is murder, but is she talking?

HARTUNG: She is to the point that investigators say they have the information as a result of conversations with her over the past day or so

that had led them to be able to charge her with one count of first degree murder. According to the probable cause affidavit that we received, it

stated she has stated that she was seated in the vehicle next to Wiggins when he shot and killed the deputy. They say that he did that with

premeditation. I think that is an important word for this conversation, Ashleigh.

That officials believe he did this with premeditation. What`s also interesting to hear is that Erica Castro Miles fled the scene after the

shooting, she hid from law enforcement underneath a house and was later apprehended by law enforcement. That is when the questioning began. That

is when she began talking to give them enough information to lead them to charge her with first degree murder.

BANFIELD: Kaylee, don`t go anywhere. I want to bring in Josh Devine, The PIO for the Tennessee bureau of investigation. Mr. Devine, I know that

this is still an active investigation, there are things you can`t tell us. But in the spirit of trying to get the community involve as well, because

all eyes and ears can be certainly helpful when there`s a manhunt of this magnitude.

What do you know about the circumstance of the sergeant being murdered, considering he was by himself, the woman who is in custody clearly may not

be giving all the details, and we also know that cruisers are often outfitted with cameras. What can you tell me about the circumstances of

that murder?

JOSH DEVINE, TENNESSEE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION SPOKESMAN: Well, certainly as you indicated this is an ongoing investigation, and we`re really doing a

couple of different things. Obviously there`s an investigation into the incident itself that led to the death of this sergeant. But there`s most

importantly a search right now for this wanted fugitive. You know, this is an individual who has clearly shown a propensity for crime. This is

someone we want in custody right now and that is why we are urging the public to be on the lookout for Steven Joshua Wiggins as you indicated

there is video evidence though that in conjunction with some of the conversation and some additional work that we`ve been able to do led us to

the charges that you talked about for that woman last night.

BANFIELD: Mr. Devine, can you elaborate on what you just said there is video evidence. Is that from the dash cam of the cruiser? Is that from a

body cam from the deceased sergeant? What video are you talking about?

DEVINE: I`m not at liberty to get into the specifics of the video, but suffice to say it is a strong piece of evidence in this ongoing case.

BANFIELD: So you perhaps did not need the words of Erica Castro Miles, the alleged accomplice in this crime in order to make the determination that

Steven Joshua Wiggins was the killer, was the gun wielding shooter in this instance, is that correct?

DEVINE: Well, all of it place together. You know, it`s just like putting together a puzzle. So, it`s a piece of the conversation, a piece of the

video. All of it works together in concert to bring us to where we are at this point.

[18:10:02] BANFIELD: Kaylee Hartung, jump back in on this, because there are some details about this woman that deepen this story, that give them a

whole other layer in terms of what Erica Castro Miles was doing the day before this sergeant was murdered. She herself was calling the police on

the missing man, the subject of the manhunt. She was calling police about Steven Joshua Wiggins. What was it about?

HARTUNG: That is right, Ashleigh. Just two days ago in a neighboring area of Dixon, she called the police and Wiggins was charged with two separate

counts. One of aggravated assault and another of motor vehicle theft. She told police that Wiggins slapped her, pulled her hair out. Told her if she

called the police he would kill her. Then she says he took her keys and took her car without her permission, hence the charge of the motor vehicle

theft.

She also stated that Wiggins had been smoking marijuana and doing meth all night long. I think this paints a much more complete picture of the type

of man that police are on the lookout for tonight.

BANFIELD: And if we need more, of a complete picture believe it or not there is even more to this man. Let me just roll the record. I have his

arrest record for the last, well, let`s see 2006 to `17, 11 years. It`s as long as your arm and that is if you`re a giant. Let`s just start with

2017, October.

Starts with assault, and I`m just going to read the low lights on this one. Assault, aggravated kidnapping, domestic assault, resisting assault,

unlawful possession of a weapon, ever made a domestic assault, false imprisonment, domestic assault, possession of a weapon, aggravated domestic

assault, aggravated assault, domestic assault, domestic assault, and domestic assault and if you`re doing the math that is seven domestics.

Art Roderick, what does it take from 2006 to 2017 to put a man like that behind bars? How is a man like that out with a woman like Erica Castro

Miles with a gun allegedly executing a cop?

ART RODERICK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALSYT: Yes, unfortunately, when we look at lot of these cases these individuals have records like that. And

you can see that there was an advancement in his criminal career to the point where he actually ended up taking the life of a police officer`s.

Our hearts and prayers go out to the baker family on this day and in the future. This is horrible thing to happen in this local jurisdiction. But

I`ve talked to some law enforcement sources. The U.S. marshals are involved in this case now.

And that not only covers the local jurisdiction, but also as the sheriff mentioned there is a possible -- there are leads that have possibly gone to

a couple of other states. And that is what the U.S. marshals are experts at. So, I mean this person has no place to hide especially if he is on

foot and he can`t get outside of that jurisdiction, then I think he`ll be caught very shortly.

And this whole issue with his girlfriend, I have just, you know, we haven`t heard yet, we haven`t heard the circumstances, but what`s the connection

between what happened yesterday during this latest domestic assault and what occurred today when this phone call came in for this suspicious

vehicle?

BANFIELD: How about the fact he is just a horribly violent man as evidenced by just the last 11 years.

RODERICK: Well, that is true.

BANFIELD: By the way, that takes until he was 20. Who knows what his juvenile record would yield if there even is one. But let me show you a

couple of pictures. This is helpful especially, I think, Josh Devine as the PIO for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation would probably love to

have these photographs circulating widely. There are a picture of his tattoos.

Now, I want you if you can make it out, it is a dog with a flag in the back. A confederate flag with a dog in the front. There`s another tattoo

that shows he has maybe not a penchant for clear art or good art. Looks like that is the praying hands. Look, Joey, I`m no expert in tattoos, but

I`ve seen my fair share of prison tattoos. And this looks like prison tattoos to me, I can`t read the script on them. It`s hard to make out a

lot of what the tattoos actually say, but he is got every spot that is visible inked with sayings and pictures and art, which means it is easier

to find him than harder.

JOEY JACKSON, CNN PRIMETIME JUSTICE GUEST SHOW HOST: Yes, it really is, Ashleigh, and I`m glad you`re pointing them out. Because oftentimes as we

know, people who are on the run and get to some place, want to disguise themselves might change themselves physically, might shave, might shave

their hair, maybe do something else, but scars are something that you can`t take off.

And as a result of that, I think it goes to him being, you know, easily identifiable and hopefully captured and captured soon. And you always

hate, obviously, when there`s any murder, you know, your heart just bleeds. When it`s an officer of the law it bleeds even further. In this case we

also know that the eyewitness who was apparently charged with the same crime pinpoints him, and I just think you look at that, you look at his

prior history, he has some reckoning to do. And we also know that the top penalty for murder in this case is the death penalty.

BANFIELD: Yes. And you know, something, if/when they slash they catch him, oftentimes it`s the fallen officer`s own handcuffs that are used to

collar the purp. So let`s hope that is the case in terms of Steven Joshua Wiggins. That if/when they catch the man they assume is now on foot they

can actually use the cuffs of Sergeant Daniels Scott Baker. I just want to mention this as well as my panel. He leaves behind a wife and the

daughter. He was a U.S. marine, he was a ten-year Law enforcement veteran.

His father and his stepbrother worked for the Springfield police department. And this afternoon there was a procession where from the

office to the funeral home where his body ultimately was taken, burial plan obviously in the offing`s for this sergeant. There are the pictures in

Nashville from this afternoon. This is the most solemn thing for fellow officers to escort the body of their fellow man in blue. It`s a hard sight

for not only those officers but the community that they serve in as well. Oftentimes those streets are lined. I think you can see it right there,

look at that. The community comes out for their hero. Make no mistake, somewhere, out there hopefully that community will be able to help bring in

Steven Joshua Wiggins.

We have new details tonight in the desperate search for Rachel DelTondo`s killer. Search warrants full of information revealing the beautiful

teacher received at least two death threats on social media, and now we have them. Those threats coming in before she was gunned down in a hail of

bullets in her mother`s driveway on mother`s day, and the cast of characters widens.

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BANFIELD: When the woman you were once going to marry ends up gunned down late at night in her mom`s driveway and police are out looking for her

killer, it is really helpful to have an alibi. And Frank Catroppa had one, a full explanation for where he was, minute by minute the night Rachel

DelTondo was riddled with bullets at her mom`s house on mother`s day. Though, here`s a problem. Tonight there are some big questions about

Frank`s alibi. Frank reportedly told police he was home with his new girlfriend the night his former fiance Rachel was murdered, Rachel. The

gorgeous young school teacher with lots of boyfriends. And Frank who has insisted for weeks he had nothing to do with his ex-fiance`s death.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FRANK CATROPPA, VICTIM`S EX-FIANCE: I was just in shock. I was at home. My girlfriend and I got a call and I was just in complete shock. I was

lost for words. For that to happen in a community I`m very familiar with and nobody know-nothing and not see nothing and nothing or nobody coming

forward to me is mind-blowing. You know, it doesn`t sit well with me. She was a good girl. She had a big heart. Definitely don`t understand why or

how somebody could do something like this to her. It`s a tragedy and nobody deserves that. And she does deserve justice.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Frank`s words may be all that we have to go on right now, because at this point the police say they cannot check out the alibi. But

we have dug deep into those search warrants, and they certainly do have a lot more work to do, because the warrants are filled with information. I

want to bring in John Paul, he is the founder and reporter for the Beaver Countian Publication. Also Art Roderick and Joey Jackson are still with

me. John Paul, I`m going to begin with you if I can. This is unusual that the ex-fiance came out right away with his lawyer and gave news conference

after news conference after interview to say look, it`s not me, I checked out, the police have checked me out. I am good to go. The police had not

checked him out. That is absolutely not full true, isn`t?

JOHN PAUL, FOUNDER AND REPORTER, THE BEAVER COUNTIAN: I have actually some new reporting on this that I did this afternoon. I spoke to Frank

Catroppa`s attorney, Steven (inaudible) and he gave me some information. And I`ve in fact since talked to my law enforcement sources about it. What

they`re telling me is this warrant that they got for Catroppa actually predated a meeting they had with him and several other individuals. So I

saw the information in there, actually predates so it is a new information they were able to obtain afterwards. Frank`s attorney and my law

enforcement sources tell me that subsequent to the search warrant they had a meeting were able to view some surveillance footage that actually shows

Frank Catroppa and his girlfriend at a parking space at his apartment complex at the night of the murder, but while before the murder had

occurred and then shows him leaving the next day. So there is not actual video showing him coming in and out of the apartment, I`m told. But

there`s video of showing him coming and going from the apartment complex, which is probably about a 20 minutes` drive from where the homicide

occurred.

BANFIELD: OK. Let`s be really clear. Because the words matter. I am reading through the warrant. And I have to say I am disappointed, and I`m

going to use that mildly. Because the wording in the warrant, I think is clumsy and it is awkward and it is unfair to this man, Frank Catroppa. He

is not a suspect in any of this. This ex-fiance has not been named as a suspect. He is not a suspect. And while, you know, it looks like the

alibi doesn`t check out, et cetera, this warrant is a mess.

I am going to start with the key fob information, it is full spring number three for our producers, you can pop that up. You know those electronic

key fobs you swipe out of buildings and doors, in you hotel rooms as well, right? Well they have some information about Frank Catroppa`s key fob

trail. Let`s read along.

The key fob information shows no log-in time into his apartment or the building on mother`s day, Sunday May 13th. Well, if you`re a betting man

that means, he didn`t swipe into the building. Maybe a neighbor let him in. It happens all the time, right? But how do you get into your

apartment? You didn`t get swiped in. You have to swipe into your apartment, right? So if there is, again, put up the wording. If there`s

no key fob information for a log-in time to the apartment, key fob information shows no log-in time into his apartment.

We called the apartment, and it turns out you don`t use a key fob to get into your apartment. Yes, you do for the building but you don`t do that

for your apartment. It`s a key. So that is a mess, and that makes him look really guilty. And if I`m a Judge reading that I`m thinking, wow,

probable cause, man. Nobody lets you into your apartment. You`re the only one that can get you into your apartment, sure, your neighbor will let you

in the front door. But your door is yours alone.

There`s no key fob to Frank Catroppa`s apartment. Now let me go to the surveillance comment in the warrant. This is supposed to be number four.

Read along with me, and this is interesting, because John Paul you just brought this up. Video surveillance reviewed as of this date does not show

a camera leading into his apartment to verify his times. John Paul, I don`t even know what to make of that. Given the key fob mess, I`m assuming

this means there is no camera to collect video surveillance as opposed to, he does not show up on any video surveillance out there. Can you make

sense of it?

PAUL: What I`m hearing from his attorney that I was able to corroborate with law enforcement sources is that there was no camera that, for example,

points directly at his door to see him opening or closing the door to his apartment. What there are cameras showing him coming and going from his

parking space, I`m told that video was reviewed and confirmed.

BANFIELD: That is a lot different, isn`t it? It is a lot different than saying he doesn`t show up on surveillance video going into his apartment,

as opposed to there are no cameras surveilling his apartment, so you can`t get video if you don`t have a camera. That is a whole lot different. Let

me repeat again, Frank Catroppa was not charged. His alibi was funky, but it sounds to me like it`s starting to really piece together. Here is what

is also weird. Remember when I said at the beginning that Rachel DelTondo had lots of boyfriends, well, one of them was a youngster with whom she

apparently had a relationship from the time he was at least 16 his lawyer says, Sheldon Jeter.

She was caught in a car with him when he was 17 and the car was all steamed up. And apparently they had quite a relationship even after she was

engaged. The engagement was broken off, but that relationship was on again and off again. And Sheldon Jeter made a phone call from his cellphone

according to the warrant within minutes of that young woman being gunned down. John Paul, do you have the actual time frame of when she was dropped

off and then when the phone call was made and then when the gunfire began?

PAUL: I from my reporting cannot independently confirm a time frame for that evening. I can tell you that the time frame based on reports and what

witnesses reported to law enforcement authorities was something that was under question and under investigation for quite some time. My

understanding is the precise, what we call the tick tock or minute by minute review of what occurred that night is still the subject of an active

investigation.

BANFIELD: So we had been putting together a lot of information and I can tell you from at least one of the search warrants for Sheldon Jeter`s phone

information, Jeter made that phone call at 10:46 p.m. we don`t know who it is to. The warrant doesn`t say who it`s to, but we can`t wait to find out

who he called at 10:46 p.m. because it was two minutes prior at 10:44 p.m. that Rachel was dropped off after that night with friends to get ice cream

and Sheldon Jeter`s brother was in the car and a 17 year-old girl, the daughter of a cop was in the car, she was driving.

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She reports at 10:44, she drops off Rachael. At 10:46, the warrant says Sheldon Jeter makes a call - makes a call from his cellphone. And at 10:48,

two minutes later, the neighbors are calling 911 saying gunfire, gunfire. And that young woman is riddled with more than 10 bullets.

Art Roderick, what does that tell you? Terrible coincidence or a really good lead?

RODERICK: Well, criminal investigators don`t believe in coincidences. I`m sure law enforcement has been all over that particular time line. When we

talked about this case a couple of weeks ago, the first thing that struck me was the overkill in the amount of rounds that were fired at her and it

seemed very personal at that point I time.

But I think the more interesting thing is sort of what`s swirling around on the edges of this case is regarding the jurisdictional issues. And I think

with this particular police department and their past incidences with her regarding leaking of certain police reports, there is an investigative

conflict here.

And that`s why I think you`ve seen either the state police step in or the FBI come in to assist in this investigation. Aliquippa PDs are very small

police department and they should have really turned this case over from the very beginning either to the state police or --

BANFIELD: They haven`t.

RODERICK: -- FBI assistance to come in.

BANFIELD: Yeah. They haven`t. And you know what?

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: Let me tell you something. The Aliquippa police have been investigated for corruption. That`s according to state police, apparently

city hall as well, and Aliquippa has been investigated and it is ongoing, we are told, although that`s also up for debate because if you ask the

Aliquippa Department, case closed.

If you ask the state police, they say we don`t comment on ongoing investigations. So that`s a big discrepancy right there.

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: And with that contradiction and that with the accidental release of that report about Rachael in the car with that 17-year-old two years ago

that was never supposed to be released, and with the cop off duty who shows up at the murder scene --

RODERICK: Yes.

BANFIELD: -- and apparently compromises the murder scene, is told by a fellow cop to get out, Joey Jackson, if you are a defense attorney on this

case, are you making a shopping list of things that have gone wrong?

JACKSON: You really need to. And that`s how you ultimately represent clients successfully. And going back briefly to your time line, it`s

interesting, Ashleigh, because very rarely is there is a smoking gun.

Sometimes law enforcement gets lucky. But most criminals cover their tracks and as a result of that, we have direct evidence and we have circumstantial

evidence. And I love how you laid out the time line because it doesn`t show anything directly, but you used your common sense and good judgement

to backtrack and it gives you circumstances, right?

We go outside and it`s perfectly dry. You come in and then you go back out, it`s wet, it rained, even though it is not raining. So that is significant.

BANFIELD: And you didn`t see the rain.

JACKSON: You didn`t see the rain.

BANFIELD: Right.

JACKSON: So circumstantial evidence very compelling. But crime scene, you have to stay away from. Contamination is something that defense attorneys

live with in terms of attacking investigations. So when you get someone and you bring them to justice, it`s harder to because who can you trust?

BANFIELD: It`s like a big treasure chest for defense attorneys. So this story continues. I can`t even get to all of it. But I will tell you this.

Rachael`s mom wants an outside agency to come in and investigate. She`s none too happy with the local police. My thanks to John Paul (ph), as

always. Art Roderick, thank you. And Joey Jackson, you got to stick around. More work to do.

Texas newlyweds in custody tonight. Young, young newlyweds. Their whole life ahead of them. Only these two are accused of masterminding a murder

for hire plot. And the victim left dead, a prominent Austin jeweller, who just happened to be that young man`s father. Why on earth would they want

to do it? I have eight million reasons, next.

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BANFIELD: It was about 5:00 in the morning when it happened. When Texas jeweller Ted Shaughnessy and his wife Corey woke up to a sound in their

home, and they figured it could be an intruder. According to police, their dog had first started barking and then Ted got up, grabbed his gun, and

went to investigate.

That`s when Corey heard gunshots. Corey grabbed her own hand gun, reportedly, and began to fire, saying that the suspects took aim right at

her. She returned fire until she emptied that gun of hers, and then she ran to the closet and hid and called the police.

And when the officers got to that house, the suspects were gone, nowhere to be found. But they had turned that home into a slaughterhouse. Ted`s body

in a pool of blood in the kitchen on the floor. The beloved family dog, Bart, also shot dead.

[18:40:01] And for months, this crime looked like maybe it was a botched attempted robbery. Although it`s kind of weird that the suspects didn`t

take anything. Remember, the dead man is a jeweller with a house chock-full of valuables. And the couple`s teenage son filled his dad`s shoes in the

family business.

Though you got to admit it is pretty tough to do business when you are locked up behind bars. Because that guy, Nicholas Shaughnessy, is now

accused of hiring a hit man to kill both of his parents. And he allegedly had help from her, his brand new teenage bride. All of this is news that is

simply astounding to the 19-year-old`s neighbors.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KELIP MILLER, NEIGHBOR OF SUSPECTS: He basically told me his father was murdered, so I felt incredibly awful for him as a normal person would.

Something I found a little odd is that he sent me the police report in Austin of like what happened. Everyone grieves for the family. It didn`t

seem to phase (ph) him. The overall absurdity of the situation is just bizarre.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Bizarre to say the least. With we now, Tony Plohetski, an investigative reporter for the Austin American-Statesman. Also, Art

Roderick is still with me. And Joey Jackson remains on the panel as well. Welcome to you all.

Tony, I`d like to begin with you if I can. This story is so incredibly bizarre but also so incredibly sad to see the son of this successful

jeweller, a son who`s only 19 years old, a newlywed to another 19-year-old, and the two of them are locked up, the son on $3 million bail, his new wife

on $1 million bail.

Do you have any idea why it took three months from the time that Ted Shaughnessy, the jeweller, the father, was murdered to the time that the

son and his new wife were actually arrested? Why such a lag?

TONY PLOHETSKI, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN: Well, Ashleigh, the investigation has been ongoing as you can imagine since this

happened. But if you read the court documents that I`ve been pouring over in the past couple of days, one of the things that really stands out to me

is that authorities got information from a confidential informant, a person who is not identified in these court records late this month, just within

the past couple of days.

And based on information they got from that confidential informant, that really did tie up their case and law enforcement moved very, very quickly

after having multiple conversations with that confidential informant to arrest and charge these two people with this crime.

BANFIELD: And Tony, just replay for me the scene of the crime when this son shows up, Nicolas, and brings his wife Jaclyn. Dad is dead in a pool of

blood. Mom has had to engage in a firefight to save her life. And these two show up and what is their demeanor? Walk me through his demeanor and the

wife`s demeanor.

PLOHETSKI: Well, there`s actually video footage of them on the scene that day. And you can see that they are, in fact, talking to law enforcement as

they stand on the street outside this home. But authorities also document some of their impressions of particularly Nick Shaughnessy in the days and

in the hours right after this happened, saying that he wanted to be with his mother.

That was one of the things that he said, as she was interviewed by law enforcement. And then his wife, according to a court affidavit, an arrest

affidavit that was signed this week by a judge here in Austin, she was initially very cooperative with law enforcement, talked about how much her

husband had a good relationship with them.

But according to this affidavit, she really lost control and became very emotional when she was told that she was going to be tested for gunshot

residue. That`s according to --

BANFIELD: Oh, well.

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: Art Roderick, your days, you know, with the U.S. Marshals, your days in law enforcement, if somebody is somber at a murder scene and then

begins to freak out the minute they`re told they`re going to be tested, is that your red flag number one?

RODERICK: Absolutely. I mean this case is very bizarre. Now I`m sure forensically when they looked at the computers and all the databases, that

to me is how this whole breadcrumb thing was mapped out because it`s all there. I mean they didn`t really do a heck of a lot to cover this up.

First of all, you`ve got two different caliber weapons that were used at the murder scene and about 20 rounds exchanged between this couple and Mrs.

Shaughnessy who fired six rounds from a 357.

[18:45:04] So that`s a heck of a gunfight right there. But two different caliber-type weapons at the scene generally means there`s two people

involved in the shootout. Now I`m sure, he specifically, the son, knew that the parents both had handguns and needed another person there to help him

out in case there was a shootout that did occur.

BANFIELD: Here`s the interesting part. They`re only charged with criminal solicitation at this point. They`re not charged with murder.

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: So let`s really be clear on this. I`m going to need a break. I need you to stick around, Art. And I need Joey Jackson after the break as

well because a box of ammo was found at their apartment that matched the shell casings at the scene. That is never good.

But then how about this? A woman emerges out of the wood work, and she says that Nick, the kid, contacted her months before on social media, allegedly

offering cash for, "anything from strippers to murders." And that`s not all that came out of the woodwork. When we come back after the break, hear what

he had to say to another friend about plastic gloves and ski masks. That`s next.

[18:50:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We`re still talking about the Texas 19-year-old and his new 19- year-old bride accused of hiring a hit man to kill the young man`s parents. The question is, would he have done it for the millions upon millions he

reportedly stood to gain in life insurance and other family perks?

My family is still with me. Tony Plohetski, the amount of money in this story is astounding. Two million in life insurance. Where does the other

six million come in to take the total to eight million that he stood to gain?

PLOHETSKI: According to the arrest affidavit, Nicolas Shaughnessy told associates that he stood to gain up to $8 million between life insurance as

well as business property, as well as family jewelry store, as well as personal property, the home in Southwestern Travis County where his parents

live and where this happened.

BANFIELD: That is just a mountain of what they say in the court of law is motive. Don`t have to prove it. But it is powerful, especially $8 million.

Art Roderick, I said it before the break, a woman came out of woodwork two weeks before the murder, now months ago, says that Nick, the kid, contacted

her on the internet and offered cash for "anything from strippers to murders." And that`s not the only material --

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: -- in terms of messaging. Apparently back in August, a conversation between that kid and the pal said this. The friend says, you

have questions or suggestions, Nicolas answers plastic gloves, ski mask. The friend says no, no, no. Nicolas says fine, fine. Just walk in and shoot

a family, steal all their shit. Nicolas, no mask needed because they will be dead. I don`t even know where to begin.

RODERICK: I know.

BANFIELD: That`s extraordinarily troubling. If you add those two things to the confidential informant who just came out of woodwork, is that enough?

RODERICK: That`s enough for the solicitation. It will be interesting to see if there is going to be any future charges coming out on these two

individuals. But if you piece all this together, it is a very bizarre story because all this is being found out on either internet or through

informants or through friendships that he has on the outside. So it is going to be -- you know, will there be more charges coming? That is going

to be the key part.

BANFIELD: And Joey Jackson, mom is apparently standing by her son. That`s very powerful in his court.

JACKSON: You know it is. But, you know, look, that`s a mother`s love, right? And the mother`s love doesn`t want to believe that. You`re the son,

you`re the pride, you`re the joy. Sometimes, you have to face the reality. If this is the reality, it`s criminal solicitation but it`s a life felony.

If he`s convicted of it, it`s problematic. Last point, and that is the social media imprint you pointed to with these text messages. That`s the

tip of the iceberg. I`m sure they have a lot more not looking good for him whether she supports him or not.

BANFIELD: Yeah. And I`ll tell you what. Right now, maybe she doesn`t know all the evidence.

JACKSON: She will.

BANFIELD: And if she is confronted with the idea that that was her son and his new wife firing those bullets at her where she was running for her

life, things might change.

JACKSON: Hard fact, yeah.

BANFIELD: You never know. All right, thanks so much. My thanks to Tony Plohetski and Art Roderick. Joey Jackson, I am going to ask you to stay on.

Straight ahead, a headline. I could not make this up if I spent my years in Hollywood. A Florida woman named Crystal Methvin is arrested for drug

possession. And I will give you three guesses as to what she had on her. One more thing, straight ahead.

[18:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: One more thing for you tonight and it is really something the whole team of writers could not make up. St. Augustine Police arrested this

woman. Her name is Crystal Methvin. And she was arrested for possession of -- you guess it, crystal meth.

According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, this is not her first rodeo or second or even third.

[18:59:58] She`s been arrested on drug charges at least nine other times since 1988. Crystal Methvin. Crystal Methvin. She`s about 40 years old. So,

that name preceded the scourge that is today. Weird though, right. Next hour of CRIME AND JUSTICE starts right now.

[19:00:00]

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I keep wanting to call my mom and ask her what to do and I can`t.

BANFIELD (voice-over): Two days after graduation, a high school senior`s mom is murdered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see smoke. The house is pretty much smoke.

BANFIELD: And the man suspected in the shooting and the fire that burned down the house, is the man she reportedly called dad.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We let him be part of our family and he took my whole family.

BANFIELD: Tonight he is on the run and police need your help in hunting him down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can`t grieve yet until he is found. Until I get justice for her.

BANFIELD: Gunned down in the driveway.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ms. Deltondo was didn`t bother anybody. She didn`t hurt anyone.

BANFIELD: And tonight her killer is still somewhere out there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a personal vendetta against here at the time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She had received death threats.

BANFIELD: Her former fiance said he was in the clear, but what has happened to his alibi?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was at home with my girlfriend and I got a call.

BANFIELD: Why do police say they need more proof?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It didn`t sit well with me.

BANFIELD: And would he have a reason to kill Rachel Deltondo?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was a good girl. She had a big heart.

BANFIELD: More than the half dozen other who is have been tangled in her web.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have been hearing rumors going around.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was no love triangle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could have been contaminated.

BANFIELD: A jeweler and his dog shot dead in a violent home invasion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He told me his father passed away so I expressed my condolences.

But was it a murder for hire with the teenage son footing the bill?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It didn`t seem to faze him.

BANFIELD: Why he and his brand new teenage bride are now behind bars.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would say they were a little secretive.

BANFIELD: And how his own mom narrowly escaped being next.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The overall absurdity of the situation is bizarre.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. Welcome to the second hour of CRIME AND JUSTICE.

We are going to begin tonight here with the urgent man hunt for a suspected killer who could be armed and dangerous. And he is the boyfriend of an

Atlanta woman who was shot dead this past weekend right after her daughter`s graduation from high school. Her body was left inside her

burning home.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911. What is the address of the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I found an emergency. The house in my neighbor.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is the address, please?

OK, sir. Tell me exactly what happened?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know. The house is pretty much smoke.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. So it`s on fire?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you see flames or smoke?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see smoke.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is anyone trapped inside on the building?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I guess.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where exactly is the fire?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the bathroom window.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bathroom window?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: The fire did not seem to be an accident and now police say the boyfriend, 43-year-old, Patrick Nolan, may have been the one who started

it. They charged him with arson but they have also charged him with assault and they tagged on murder for good measure. And maybe that`s

because Amber Holliman didn`t die of a gunshot wound to the head, there`s also evidence she was beaten.

The friendly neighborhood bartender who moved down to Atlanta for her boyfriend and leaves behind an 18-year-old daughter who says she will not

rest until Nolan is found.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PAYTON HOLLIMAN, DAUGHTER OF THE VICTIM: We let him be part of our family and he took my whole family. I can`t grieve yet until he is found. I

can`t do anything. Like I`m stuck just missing her. I can`t accept that she is gone or anything until I get justice for her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me now freelance investigative reporter Tina Douglas, Sergeant Sam Worsham of the Sandy Springs police department. Also Payton

Holliman, Amber Holliman`s daughter who had just graduated before her mom was killed. Defense attorney and CNN and HLN legal analyst Joey Jackson is

here with me as well.

Tina Douglas, if I can begin with you. Are there any leads as this a nationwide manhunt now? Are there any leads as to where Patrick Nolan may

be tonight?

TINA DOUGLAS, FREELANCE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, there are. We understand that Mr. Nolan was spotted in southern Louisiana on Saturday

which would have been day after this occurrence. We also know he has tied to Mississippi as well as Colorado and possibly Florida. So if he has

family and friends in any of those places, it`s possible that he could be anywhere right now.

[19:05:27] BANFIELD: And the ties to the other states, he had moved from Mississippi. Is it family that ties him to other states? Is there any

other detail that might lend an idea as to track him?

DOUGLAS: Well, I understand he has a sister in Mississippi. And we do know that Mrs. Holliman or Ms. Holliman was from Louisiana. So it`s very

possible that he has friends and family there as well.

BANFIELD: And what about the scene of the crime where Amber Holliman was murdered? Is it yielding any clues?

DOUGLAS: Well, I think investigators were able to get into the home before it burned down. So they were able to tell that this woman had suffered

some trauma before the fire was set. They didn`t take long to identify a suspect. What they found though is unclear to me at this time. But they

were able to finger Mr. Nolan as a suspect very quickly.

BANFIELD: And apparently, they say that Patrick Nolan may be driving a blue 2006 Ford explorer with Georgia tags. That tag reds PZY 1420. That

is not the car, but it is the car -- it`s an example of the blue Ford Explorer that he may be driving. So if you see that and you see that tag,

PZY 1420, be careful because he is consider armed and dangerous. But call the police right away.

Sergeant Sam Worsham, what are you hearing just in terms of the possibilities tonight? Is this -- does this manhunt goes across the

country? There is this focus on Louisiana, Mississippi and Colorado but only because he has tied. Do you have other information?

SGT. SAM WORSHAM, SANDY SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT: We are sending out a look out nationwide. We are looking to get Mr. Nolan into custody.

BANFIELD: Does that picture accurately represent the person who is out there? Because there are reports that he somewhat looks different.

WORSHAM: Those are some of the photos we had provided to us. Some came from social media. But we did verify that that was Mr. Nolan.

BANFIELD: Did the scene yield any information just in terms of why this happened? Why a longtime boyfriend who had just been to graduation dinner

with someone he considered his daughter and this young girl`s mom and ultimately that mom ends up dead in a pool of blood. Is there anything

that the scene yield in terms of motive or that ties him to it?

WORSHAM: We do believe that Mr. Nolan did planned this. And that he executed it and he is on the run.

BANFIELD: Why do you think that?

WORSHAM: With some evidence has come up in the investigation. I don`t want to do anything to taint the case and give too much away and ruin the

case for the detectives but at this time we do believe it was premeditated.

BANFIELD: Makes perfect sense you wouldn`t want to botch something as you get this going. But at the same time, is there something that ties him to

being in that home? For instance, there is word that he kept a gun on his bedside table. Did they find a gun even though the house was burning, did

they find it in the home or is it gone?

WORSHAM: I`m not sure about that. We do know that he knew he lived at the home and they were in a long term relationship.

BANFIELD: `Do you know anything about the last time of that long term relationship. And -- that may have given some motive to a behavior like

this that led to a death?

WORSHAM: No. We don`t know anything about the inside of the last few days at all.

BANFIELD: So can you help me through this? On Saturday, the day of the fire, he has called a person of interest. But by the next day he is wanted

for murder. That is a huge leap. You don`t go from being a person of interest -- I mean, should be a suspect in between. But he made the

massive leap to be wanted for murder. What was it that transpired between Saturday and Sunday that had you all jumping to murder right away?

WORSHAM: Well, the call actually came out Saturday morning at 11:30. And our investigators initially just didn`t know it was a homicide scene. It

was just a fire call. And after the detectives were there and able to gather some evidence, it became clear that it was a homicide and the

detectives then began ramping up their efforts. They collected a lot of evidence, presented it to a judge and were actually granted warrants for a

homicide arson in the first-degree and aggravated assault with intent to murder.

BANFIELD: And the aggravated assault, is that because of the blunt force trauma that Amber Holliman suffered?

WORSHAM: That is correct.

BANFIELD: Can you explain that blunt force trauma? What was it?

[19:10:00] WORSHAM: We don`t know what the weapon exactly was. But she did suffer from blunt force trauma to the head as well as gunshot wound.

BANFIELD: And what killed her? The gunshot or the blunt force trauma, do you know?

WORSHAM: We don`t know exactly for sure. It could be a combination of both.

BANFIELD: Do you know where Amber Holliman`s body was found in that home?

WORSHAM: I do not know.

BANFIELD: Where was the fire started?

WORSHAM: We believe in the area where she was located but didn`t go in to the scene. I don`t know exactly where in the home she was located.

BANFIELD: Can you tell me if her body was burned in the fire?

WORSHAM: Yes. We understand her body was burned.

BANFIELD: Badly or was there enough evidence that you could glean? Was the fire put out in time so the forensics could be preserved, especially

when it came to the body?

WORSHAM: The fire department was able to put the fire out quickly and a lot of evidence was preserved.

BANFIELD: A lot of evidence was preserved. Well, that is very helpful.

Can you also tell me, was there anything that you retrieved from the home other than say the evidence that you talked about that would lead to

possession of a weapon that is his weapon? Like casings, anything like that.

WORSHAM: I don`t know the answer to that. I don`t know what evidence was collected. I just know that it led to a murder one (INAUDIBLE).

BANFIELD: OK.

I want to play this call, if I can. This is the neighbor who called 911 and said that they could see the fire in the bathroom window. Did you tell

me, Sergeant, that the fire started likely where her body was and you don`t know where the body was found? Is that correct, Sergeant?

WORSHAM: I don`t know exactly which room in the home where her body was located but that is where the fire was.

BANFIELD: Well, this is what the neighbor said he could see from his vantage point. Have a listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where exactly is the fire?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the bathroom window.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bathroom window?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Bathroom window. I want to bring in Payton Holliman.

Payton, this is such an incredible tragedy. And we are so sorry for the loss that you have suffered and what you are going through right now as

this man is still on the run. This is man you called dad, is that correct?

HOLLIMAN: Yes.

BANFIELD: Did you have any indication, Payton, this could be possible?

HOLLIMAN: You know, things were kind of hard at home sometimes. Like he could either be your best friend or just really angry. But I don`t think

anyone ever expected him to do this.

BANFIELD: I mean, you had incidents with him in past. But they certainly didn`t seem dangerously violent. He threw some shoes at you at one point.

He berated you. I think he said things about eating and gaining weight or trying not to gain weight. I mean, this are all extraordinarily unpleasant

things but did he rise to the level of being dangerous to you or your mom?

HOLLIMAN: I wouldn`t say dangerous. I`m in the scared of him. I was never scared of him. I knew my mom was going to do whatever she could to

protect me, so.

BANFIELD: Is it true that your mom was getting close to cutting him lose, breaking up with him but waiting until you graduation last Thursday, a week

ago tonight? Was that the case?

HOLLIMAN: Yes. Actually, he was the one that told me that she was going to leave him and had asked me to help him get her to stay and I did my

best. Like told him her favorite flowers and things to do around the house because he didn`t help out with anything so he didn`t know what needed to

be done. So I would like give him pointers and stuff.

And then one day I came home from school and like was really upset that they were going to split up because I did consider him my dad and then he

looked at me and told me that everything was fine between him and my mom and I need to stop worrying.

BANFIELD: Can you also tell me about the dog? He has a 160 pound dog. It`s sort of known as a canary Mastiff (ph). I think may have a

photographed. This is the dog he took with him in.

HOLLIMAN: Yes.

BANFIELD: So if he is out there, he is saddled with a 160 pound dog which may be very helpful in terms of tracking him. If anyone is watching right

now and you see this man with a giant dog like this, without question. The dog is not friendly to other dogs but is friendly to children, correct?

HOLLIMAN: Yes, he loves babies.

BANFIELD: So it would be a clue if this dog were aggressive towards other dogs if someone sees this 160 pound. Again, that`s massive dog, a canary

mastiff, that would be helpful to track him.

HOLLIMAN: Yes.

BANFIELD: And he has had no contact with you at all, correct?

HOLLIMAN: None.

BANFIELD: Payton, I wish you the best. And our thoughts go out to you as you just, you know, a week out of your high school graduation dealing with

this. I hope that they can find him and I hope that you can also find peace. Thank you for being with us.

[19:15:09] HOLLIMAN: Thank you.

BANFIELD: We also have some new details to bring tonight in the desperate search for Rachel Deltondo`s killer. There are search warrants and they

are chocked full of information about that beautiful teacher like with death threats that she received, two of them on social media. More about

that next.

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[19:20:18] BANFIELD: When the woman you were once going to marry ends up gunned down late at night in her mom`s driveway and police are out looking

for her killer, it`s really helpful to have an alibi. And Frank Catroppa had one. A full explanation for where he was minute by minute the night

Rachel Deltondo was riddled with bullets at her mom`s house on mother`s day.

Though, here is the problem. Tonight there are some big questions about Frank`s alibi.

Frank reportedly told police he was home with his new girlfriend the night his former fiancee Rachel was murdered. Rachel, a gorgeous young

schoolteacher with lots of boyfriends. And Frank who has insisted for weeks he had nothing to do with his ex-fiancee`s death.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FRANK CATROPPA, VICTIM`S EX-FIANCE: I was just in shock. I was at home with my girlfriend. And I got a call and I was in complete shock. I was

lost for words. For that to happen in a community I`m very familiar with and nobody know-nothing and not see nothing and nothing or nobody coming

forward to me is mind-blowing. You know, it doesn`t sit well with me.

She was a good girl. She had a big heart. Definitely don`t understand why or how somebody could do something like this to her. It`s a tragedy and

nobody deserves that. And she does deserve justice.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Frank`s words may be all that we have to go on right now because at this point the police say they cannot check out the alibi. But we have

dug deep into those search warrants, and they certainly do have a lot more work to do because the warrants are filled with information.

I want to bring in John Paul, who is the founder and reporter for the Beaver Countian Publication. Also, Art Roderick and Joey Jackson are still

with me.

John Paul, I`m going to begin with you, if I can. This is unusual that the ex-fiance came right up with his lawyer and gave news conference after news

conference after interview to say look, it`s not me. I checked out. The police have checked me out. I`m good to go. The police had not checked

him out. That is absolutely not fully true, is it?

PAUL,(on the phone): I actually have some new reporting on this that I did this afternoon. I spoke to Frank Catroppa`s attorney, Steven (INAUDIBLE),

and he gave me some information. And I have since talked to my law enforcement sources about it.

What they are telling me is this warrant that they got for Catroppa actually predated a meeting that they had with him and several other

individuals. So some of the information in there, actually, predates some new information that we were able obtain afterwards.

Frank Catroppa`s attorney and my law enforcement sources tell me that subsequent to the search warrant they had a meeting where they were able to

view some surveillance footage that actually shows Frank Catroppa and his girlfriend at a parking space at an apartment complex the night of the

murder but well before the murder had occurred and then shows him leaving the next day.

So there is not actual video showing him coming in and out of the apartment, I`m told. But there`s video of him showing him going from the

apartment complex, which is probably about a 20 minutes-drive from where the homicide occurred.

BANFIELD: OK. Let`s be really clear because the words matter. I have been reading through the warrant. And I have to say I am disappointed and

I`m going to use that mildly because the wording in the warrant I think is clumsy and it is awkward and it is unfair to this man, Frank Catroppa. He

is not a suspect in any of this. This ex-fiance has not been named as a suspect. He is not a suspect.

And while, you know, it looks like the alibi doesn`t check out, et cetera, this warrant is a mess. I`m going to start with the key fob information.

It is full screen number three for our producers. You can pop that up. You know those electronic key fobs you swipe in and out of buildings or

doors and your hotel rooms as well, right? Well they have some information about Frank Catroppa`s key fob trail. And let`s read along.

The key fob information shows no log-in time into his apartment or the building on mother`s day, Sunday May 13th. Well, if you are a betting man

that means he didn`t swipe into the building. Maybe a neighbor let him in. It happens all the time, right? But how do you get into your apartment?

You can`t get swiped in. You can`t get let in to your -- you have to swipe into your apartment, right? So if there -- again, put up the wording. If

there`s no key fob information for a log-in time to the apartment, key fob information shows no log-in time into his apartment.

Well, we called the apartment. And it turns out you don`t use a key fob to get into your apartment. Yes, you do for the building, but you don`t do

that for your apartment. It`s a key. So that`s a mess. And that makes him look really guilty. And if I`m a judge reading that I`m thinking, wow,

probable cause, man. Nobody lets you into your apartment. You are the only one that can get you into your apartment. Sure, your neighbor will

let you in the front door. But your door is yours alone. There`s no key fob for Frank Catroppa`s apartment.

Now let go to surveillance comment in the warrant. This is supposed to be number four. Read along with me. And this is interesting because, John

Paul, you just brought this up.

Video surveillance reviewed as of this date does not show a camera leading into his apartment to verify his times.

John Paul, I don`t even know what to make of that. Given the key fob mess, I`m assuming this means there is no camera to collect video surveillance as

opposed to, he does not show up on any video surveillance out there. Can you make sense of it?

[19:26:13] PAUL: Yes. What I`m hearing from his attorney that I was able to corroborate with law enforcement sources was that there was no camera

that, for example, points directly at his door to see him opening or closing the door to his apartment. But there are as cameras showing him

coming and going from his parking space. I`m told that video was reviewed and confirmed.

BANFIELD: That`s a lot different, isn`t it? It is a lot different than saying he doesn`t show up on surveillance video going into his apartment,

as opposed to there are no cameras surveilling his apartment, so you can`t get video if you don`t have a camera. That`s a whole lot different.

And let me repeat again, Frank Catroppa is was not charged. His alibi was funky, but it sounds to me like it is starting to really piece together.

Here`s what is also weird. Remember when I said at the beginning that Rachel Deltondo had lots of boyfriends? Well, one of them was a youngster

with whom she apparently had a relationship from the time he was at least 16 his lawyer says, Sheldon Jeter. She was caught in a car with him when

he was 17 and the car was all steamed up. And apparently they had quite a relationship even after she was engaged. The engagement was broken off,

but that relationship was on again and off again. And Sheldon Jeter made a phone call from his cellphone, according to the warrants, within minutes of

that young woman being gunned down.

John Paul, do you have the actual time frame of when she was dropped off and then when the phone call was made and then when the gunfire began?

PAUL: I, from my reporting cannot independently confirm a time frame for that evening. I can tell you that the time frame based on reports and

witnesses reported to law enforcement authorities was something that was under question and under investigation for quite some time. My

understanding is the precise, what we call the tic-tac or minute by minute review of what occurred that night is still the subject of an active

investigation.

BANFIELD: So we have been putting together a lot of information. And I can tell you from at least one of the search warrants for Sheldon Jeter`s

phone information, Jeter made that phone call at 10:46 p.m. We don`t know who it`s to. The warrant doesn`t say who it`s to. But we can`t wait to

find out who he called at 10:46 p.m. because it was two minutes prior at 10:44 p.m. that Rachel was dropped off with that night out with friends to

get ice cream. And Sheldon Jeter`s brother was in the car. And a 17-year- old girl, the daughter of a cop was in the car, she was driving. She reports 10:44 she drops off Rachel, 10:46 the warrant says Sheldon Jeter

makes a call from his cellphone. And 10:48, two minutes later, the neighbors are calling 911 saying gunfire, gunfire. And that young woman is

riddled with more than ten bullets.

Art Roderick, what does that tell you? Terrible coincidence or a really good lead?

RODERICK: Well, criminal investigators don`t believe in coincidences. So I mean, I`m sure law enforcement has been all over that particular time

line. But when we talked about this case a couple of weeks ago, the first thing that struck me was the overkill in the amount of rounds that were

fired at her. And it seemed very personal at that point in time. But I think the more interesting thing is sort of swirling around on the edges of

this case is regarding the jurisdictional issues. And I think with this particular police department and their past incidences with her regarding

leaking of certain police reports there is an investigative conflict here. And that`s why I think you have seen either the state police step in or the

FBI come in to assist in this investigation. Aliquippa PDs are very small police department, and they should have really turned this case over from

the very beginning either to the state police or requested the FBI assistance to come in.

[19:30:10] BANFIELD: They haven`t. Yes, they haven`t. And you know what? Let me tell you something. The Aliquippa police have been investigated for

corruption, that`s according to the state police. Apparently city hall as well in Aliquippa has been investigated and it`s ongoing, we`re told.

Although, that`s also up for debate because if you ask the Aliquippa department, case closed. If you ask the state police, they say we don`t

comment on ongoing investigations. So, that`s a big discrepancy right there.

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: And with that contradiction, and then with the accidental release of that report about Rachel in the car with a 17-year-old two years

ago, that was never supposed to be released. And with the cop off-duty who shows up at the murder scene and apparently compromises the murder scene.

Is told by his fellow cops get out. Joey Jackson, if you`re a defense attorney on this case, are you making a shopping list of things that have

gone wrong?

JACKSON: You really need to. And that`s how you ultimately represent clients successfully. And going back briefly to your timeline, it`s

interesting, Ashleigh, because very rarely is there a smoking gun, right? Sometimes law enforcement gets lucky, but most criminals cover their tracks

and as a result of that, we have direct evidence and we have circumstantial evidence. And I love how you laid out the timeline because it doesn`t show

anything directly but you use your common sense and good judgement to backtrack and it gives you circumstances, right? We go outside and it`s

perfectly dry. You come in and then you go back out and it`s wet, it rained even though it`s not raining, so that`s significant.

BANFIELD: And you didn`t see the rain.

JACKSON: You didn`t see the rain. So, circumstantial evidence very compelling, but crime scenes, you have to stay away from, contamination is

something that defense attorneys live with in terms of attacking investigations. So, when you get someone and you bring them to justice,

it`s harder to because who can you trust? Certainly not this crime scene.

BANFIELD: It`s like a big -- it`s like a big treasure chest for defense attorneys. All right. So, this story continues. I can`t even get to all

of it, but I`ll tell you this, Rachel`s mom wants an outside agency to come in and investigate. She`s none too happy with the local police. My thanks

to John Paul (ph), as always, Art Roderick, thank you, and Joey Jackson, you`re going to have to stick around, more work to do.

Texas newlyweds in custody tonight. Young, young newlyweds, their whole life ahead of them. Only these two are accused of masterminding a murder

for hire plot. And the victim left dead, a prominent Austin jeweller who just happened to be that young man`s father. Why on earth would they want

to do it? I have 8 million reasons, next.

[19:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: It was about 5:00 in the morning when it happened, when Texas jeweller Ted Shaughnessy and his wife, Corey, woke up to a sound in their

home, and they figured it could be an intruder. According to police, their dogs had first started barking and then Ted got up, grabbed his gun and

went to investigate. That`s when Corey heard gunshots. Corey grabbed her own handgun, reportedly, and began to fire. Saying that the suspects took

aim right at her. She returned fire until she emptied that gun of hers, and then she ran to the closet and hid and called the police. And when the

officers got to that house, the suspects were gone, nowhere to be found. But they had turned that home into a slaughterhouse. Ted`s body in a pool

of blood in the kitchen on the floor. The beloved family dog, Bart, also shot dead. And for months, this crime looked like maybe it was a botched

attempted robbery.

Although, it`s kind of weird that the suspects didn`t take anything. Remember, the dead man is a jeweller with a house chock-full of valuables.

And the couple`s teenage soon, filled his dad`s shoes in the family business. Though, you got to admit, it is pretty tough to do business when

you are locked up behind bars. Because that guy, Nicolas Shaughnessy, is now accused of hiring a hitman to kill both of his parents. And he

allegedly had help from her, his brand new teenage bride. All of this is news that is simply astounding to the 19-year-old`s neighbors.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KELLIP MILLER, NEIGHBOR OF SUSPECTS: He basically told me his father was murdered, so I felt incredibly awful for him as, you know, a normal person

would. Something that I found a little odd is that he sent me the police report in Austin of like what happened. Everyone grieves differently. It

just seem -- it didn`t seem to faze him. Just the overall absurdity of the situation was just bizarre.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Bizarre to say the least. With we now, Tony Plohetski, an investigative reporter for the Austin American-Statesman. Also, Art

Roderick is still with me, and Joey Jackson remains on the panel, as well. Welcome, too, Tony, I`d like to begin with you if I can.

[19:40:01] This story is so incredibly bizarre but it`s also so incredibly sad to see the son of this successful jeweller, a son who`s only 19 years

old, a newlywed to another 19-year-old and the two of them are locked up. The son on $3 million bail, his new wife on $1 million bail. Do you have

any idea why it took three months from the time that Ted Shaughnessy, the jeweller, the father, was murdered to the time that the son and his new

wife were actually arrested? Why such a lag?

PLOHETSKI: Well, Ashleigh, the investigation has been ongoing as you can imagine since this happened. But if you read the court documents that I`ve

been pouring over in the past couple of days, one of the things that really stands out to me is that authorities got information from a confidential

informant, a person who is not identified in these court records late this month, just within the past couple of days. And based on the information

they got from that confidential informant, that really did tie up their case and law enforcement moved very, very quickly after having multiple

conversations with that confidential informant to arrest and charge these two people with this crime.

BANFIELD: And Tony, just, you know, replay for me the scene of the crime when this son shows up, Nicolas, and brings his wife Jaclyn. Dad is dead

in a pool of blood. Mom has had to engage in a fire fight to save her life. And these two show up and what is their demeanor? Walk me through

his demeanor and the wife`s demeanor.

PLOHETSKI: Well, there`s actually video footage of them on the scene that day. And you can see that they are, in fact, talking to law enforcement as

they stand on the street outside this home. But authorities also document some of their impressions of particularly Nic Shaughnessy in the days and

in the hours right after this happened, saying that he wanted be with his mother. That was one of the things that he said, as she was interviewed by

law enforcement. And then his wife according to a court affidavit, an arrest affidavit that was signed this week by a judge here in Austin, she

was initially very cooperative with law enforcement, talked about how much her husband had a good relationship with them. But according to this

affidavit, she really lost control and became very emotional when she was told that she was going to be tested for gunshot residue. That`s according

to --

BANFIELD: Oh, well. How -- Art Roderick, your days, you know, with the U.S. Marshals, your days in law enforcement, if somebody is somber at a

murder scene and then begins to freak out the minute they`re told they`re going to be tested, is that your red flag number one?

RODERICK: Absolutely. I mean, this case is very bizarre. Now, I`m sure forensically, when they looked at the -- at the computers and all the

databases, that to me, is how this whole bread crumb thing was mapped out because it`s all there. And I mean, they didn`t really do a heck of a lot

to try to cover this up. First of all, you`ve got two different caliber weapons that were used at the murder scene and about 20 rounds exchanged

between this couple and Ms. Shaughnessy who fired six rounds from the 357, so that`s a heck of a gunfight right there. But two caliber -- two

different caliber type weapons at the scene generally means there`s two people involved in the shootout. Now, I`m sure, he specifically, the son,

knew that the parents both had handguns and needed another person there to help him out in case there was this shootout that did occur. So, I think

the breadcrumbs are there.

BANFIELD: So, here`s the interesting part, they`re only charged with criminal solicitation at this point. They`re not charged with murder.

RODERICK: Right.

BANFIELD: So, let`s be really clear on this, but I`m going to take a break.

RODERICK: Yes, yes, yes.

BANFIELD: I need you to stick around, Art. And I need Joey Jackson after the break as well because a box of ammo was found at their apartment that

matched the shell casings at the scene. That`s never good. But then how about this, a woman emerges out of the woodwork, and she says that Nic, the

kid, contacted her months before on social media, allegedly offering cash for, quote, anything from strippers to murders. And that`s not all that

came out of the woodwork. When we come back after the break, hear what he had to say to another friend about plastic gloves and ski masks, that`s

next.

[19:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We`re still talking about the Texas 19-year-old and his new 19- year-old bride, accused of hiring a hitman to kill that young man`s parents. The question is would he have done it for the millions upon

millions he reportedly stood to gain in life insurance and other family perks? My panel is still with me. Tony Plohetski, the amount of money in

the story is astounding, 2 million in life insurance. Where does the other 6 million come in to take the total to 8 million that he stood to gain?

[19:50:03] PLOHETSKI: Well, according to the arrest affidavit, Nicolas Shaughnessy told associates that he stood to gain up to $8 million between

life insurance as well as business property, the family jewelry store, as well as personal property, the home in Southwestern Travis County where his

parents lived and where this happened.

BANFIELD: That is just a mountain of what they say in a court of law is motive. Don`t have to prove it but dang, is it powerful? Especially 8

million pieces of powerful. Art Roderick, I said it before the break, a woman came out of the woodwork two weeks before the murder, now months ago

says that Nic, the kid, contacted her on the internet and offered cash for quote, anything from strippers to murders, and that`s not the only damming

material in terms of messaging. Apparently, back in August, a conversation between that kid and a pal said this, the friend says, you have questions

or suggestions? Nicolas answers plastic gloves, ski masks. The friend says no, no, no. Nicolas says, fine, fine, just walk in and shoot a

family, steal all their shit. Nicolas, no mask needed because they`ll be dead. I mean, I don`t even know where to begin. That is extraordinary

troubling. If you add those two things to the -- to the confidential informant who just came out of the woodwork, is that enough?

RODERICK: Yes. That`s enough for the solicitation end of it. It`s going to be interesting to see if there`s going to be any future charges coming

out on these two individuals. But you piece all this together, it`s a very bizarre story because all this is being found out on either the internet or

through informants or through friendships that he has on the outside. So, it`s going to be, you know, will there be more charges coming, that`s going

to be the key part?

BANFIELD: And Joey Jackson, mom is apparently standing by her son. That is very powerful in his court.

JACKSON: Yes. You know, it is. But, you know, look, that`s a mother`s love, right? And a mother`s love doesn`t want to believe that. You`re the

son, you`re the pride, you`re the joy but sometimes you have to face the reality. And if this is the reality, it`s -- you know, look, it`s criminal

solicitation but it`s a life felony. And so, if he`s convicted of it, it`s problematic (INAUDIBLE) and that is the social media imprint, you pointed

to with these text messages, and that`s the tip of the iceberg. I`m sure they have a lot more, not looking good for him whether she supports him or

not.

BANFIELD: Yes. And I`ll tell you what, right now, maybe she doesn`t know all the evidence and --

JACKSON: She will.

BANFIELD: -- if she`s confronted with the idea that that was her -- that was her son and his new wife firing those bullets at her where she was

running for her life, things might change, and you never know. All right. Thanks so much. My thanks to Tony Plohetski, Art Roderick. And Joey

Jackson, I`m going to ask you to stay on. Straight ahead, a headline I could not make this up if I spent my years in Hollywood. A Florida woman

named Crystal Methvin is arrested for drug possession, and I`ll give you three guesses as to what she had on her. "ONE MORE THING," straight ahead.

[19:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: During his medical training in Lima, Peru, this week`s CNN Hero noticed something -- a lot of families were sleeping on the floors of

hospitals just so they could access the medical care that their sick kids so desperately needed. They had come from a long way away, remote areas of

the country to the big city, and they didn`t know anyone, and they didn`t have anywhere to stay. So, this guy opened his heart and home for them.

Meet Dr. Ricardo Pun-Chong.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DR. RICARDO PUN-CHONG, CNN HERO: The journey is very difficult. They come here and it`s very expensive to stay here. They don`t have enough money to

continue their treatments. Sometimes families, they have to sell everything they have. They feel helpless. So, I decided to do something

for them. I want them to know that they are not alone.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: To see all the ways that Ricardo`s program has helped more than 900 families with sick children, go to cnnheroes.com for the full story and

while you`re there, nominate someone that you think should be a hero.

I got "ONE MORE THING" for you tonight. And you could say it is literally the face of crystal meth. I say literally because this is Crystal Methvin,

no joke, that`s her name. And St. Augustine Police arrested her for possession of, you guessed it, crystal meth. According to the Florida

Department of Law Enforcement, this is not Crystal Methvin`s first rodeo or her second rodeo even her third. She`s been arrested on drug charges at

least nine other times since 1998. I`m not sure why we`re just hearing about her now with a name like that.

See you back here again Monday night 6:00 Eastern. Thanks for watching. "FORENSIC FILES" begins right now.

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