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Rescuers Face Extreme Danger In Guatemala; Hawaiian's Warned About Toxic Gases Quakes; Source: Trump-Kim Talks To Be Meet And Greet; Mueller Accuses Paul Manafort Of Witness Tampering; Trump Cancels NFL Champions Visit Over Anthem Controversy; Tharoor Denied Allegations He Abetted Wife's Death; Israel's PM On Three-Say Trip To Lobby Against Iran Deal; Italy's Populist Expected To Secure Vote Of Confidence; Apple Unveils Anti- Addiction Features; Apple Unveils Anti-Addiction Features; Educational Blockchain Project Rolls Out in Dubai. Aired 8-9a ET

Aired June 5, 2018 - 08:00   ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong, and welcome to News Stream.

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LU STOUT: Desperately searching despite the risk. Rescuers scramble to find survivors from Guatemala's Fuego Volcano in the face of possible new

eruptions.

A big disinvitation, Donald Trump cancels the White House celebration with the Super Bowl champions. And taking on digital addiction, how Apple is

planning to take eyeballs off their products.

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LU STOUT: Rescuers in Guatemala are facing extremely dangerous conditions, putting their own lives on the line to find people who may be trapped by

lava and ash from the Fuego Volcano. The eruption ended after 17 hours on Sunday.

Well, video shows towns covered in a blanket of gray. A volunteer firefighter says breathing is difficult, and the heat is so intense, it's

burned off the soles off some firefighters' boots.

At least 69 people have died, and friends, and relatives are holding funerals. The President has declared three days of mourning. As our

Michael Holmes reports, the death tool could still rise.

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fleeing for their lives, many on foot, residents living near Guatemala's volcano of fire say they were caught off

guard.

In one village, a woman covered in ash tells emergency workers she ran as lava poured into cornfields. In another nearby town, a disturbed mother

tells of her escape, and her desperate search for her children.

EUGENIA GARCIA USPATAN, SURVIVOR (through a translator): I left home, and walked along the alley to go to the shops. When I suddenly realized the

lava was coming down, and seeping through the plots of land, the highway, and down next to the water tank.

It came down into the alley and up. It came right up to us. We manage to escape through the San Miguel Estate. I only managed to find two children

alive last night, but my two female daughters, my grandson, and my son are missing, together with my entire family.

HOLMES: Amateur video showed people racing away from what's called Pyroclastic material, a flow of ash and lava particles, and vapor. Such

clouds are often extremely hot, and they move extremely quickly, sometimes as fast as a commercial airliner, and they can reach for kilometers away

from the volcano.

Emergency workers face a roadblock of steaming lava and debris, carefully skirting the flow as they search for survivors, and victims. Rescuers

worked into the night recovering some people with severe injuries, and a number of bodies of those who were not able to outrun the deadly eruption,

sometimes using heavy construction equipment to clear the debris.

With daylight, they carefully sift through steaming debris, hoping to recover the bodies of some of those who did not escape, all the while being

threatened with more activity from the volcano, working under difficult, and dangerous conditions.

RAFAEL SALGUENO, FIRST RESPONDER (through a translator): The challenge we've faced is that the volcano has been active, and also working with this

kind of material, which is extremely hot. That makes the work of rescuers even more difficult. Because we are talking about temperatures of about 30

degrees Celsius still felt on the ground while we work.

HOLMES: But more volcanic activity on Monday, scenes people fleeing again. Residents run down the street shouting "the lava is coming." Emergency

workers also force to evacuate the area. Thousands have now been displaced from this area, emergency shelters set up where authorities are working to

help people find loved ones.

Rescuers will have to continue to search for the missing, and the dead as experts say the threat from the volcano of fire continues. Michael Holmes,

CNN.

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LU STOUT: And the search goes on there in Guatemala. Meanwhile, thousands of kilometers away, it is another hellish scene on Hawaii's Big Island.

Earthquakes are still rattling the summit of the Kilauea Volcano.

Over the weekend, scientists detected a staggering 500 earthquakes in just 24 hours. Lava continues to ooze from fissures in the ground, and people

there as in Guatemala, they are being warned about toxic gases.

[08:05:03] In Hawaii, lava is flowing into the sea. And as it cools, it's releasing the steam that contains hydrochloric acid, as well as glass

particles. These scenes in both Hawaii and Guatemala are terrifying.

But Guatemala's eruption has proven to be far more deadly. Why is that? Michael Holmes mentioned in his report that Fuego has unleashes clouds of

Pyroclastic flow, that is this incredibly hot, nasty mixture of ash, rocks, and volcanic gases. A Denison University professor explains why that can

be more dangerous than lava.

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ERIK KLEMETTI, GEOSCIENCES DEPARTMENT CHAIR, DENISON UNIVERSITY: In Hawaii you have molten rock, lava flows that move at maybe hundreds of meters per

hour, so that you can get out of the way if you're living there.

But these Pyroclastic flows on Fuego, move so quickly after the eruption started that you really need to be getting out of there the minute the

eruption happens, otherwise you're going to get caught in its path.

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LU STOUT: Another key point, while Kilauea is inside a national park, Fuego erupted practically on top of villages in the foothills of the

mountain. Fuego may be more dangerous in the long-term as well. Ash can turn into volcanic mud flow when it mixes with rain or river water.

Now to Washington where the White House is backing away from its high expectations for the upcoming meeting with North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un.

A source tells CNN that the summit now just one week away will apparently be more of a meet-and-greet.

And just weeks after Mr. Trump tweeted the occasion could be a, quote, special moment for world peace, he is now saying it will be more of a get

to know you situation. The two leaders will begin their sit down at 9:00 in the morning local time in Singapore.

U.S. President Donald Trump appears to be blaming his Attorney General Jeff Sessions from the Special Counsel's Russia probe. In the past hour, he

tweeted this, that the Russian witch hunt hoax continues all because Jeff Sessions didn't tell me he was going to recuse himself.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly complained about the Special Counsel's probe, and recently claimed that he had the absolute right to pardon himself.

Speaking of the Russian probe, President Trump is once again repeating that it is a witch hunt, but now he also added the surprising claim that he has,

quote, the absolutely right to pardon myself. Jim Acosta has more on that.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The White House is doing some damage control after the President made some questionable constitutional claim

saying that he has the power to pardon himself, and also saying the Mueller investigation is unconstitutional.

That's in addition to White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders being questioned by reporters about a statement she made last year when she said

the President did not dictate a memo to the New York Times about his son Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting at Trump Tower with a Russian attorney promising

dirt on Hillary Clinton. Sarah Sanders told reporters last year that the President did not dictate that memo when he did. Here is what she had to

say.

PETER BAKER, REPORTER, NEW YORK TIMES: In August you said he certainly didn't dictate the statement. I wonder if you could tell us the basis of

your comment when you made that in August?

SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This is a reference back to a letter from the outside counsel.

BAKER: It's from your statement in August.

SANDERS: I understand, but it's also pertaining to a letter from the president's outside counsel, and therefore I can't answer, and I would

direct you to them.

BAKER: What was your basis of saying it in August then?

SANDERS: Once again, I'm not going to get into a back and forth, and I would encourage you to reach out to the outside counsel.

ACOSTA: One of the President's outside attorney, Jay Sekulow, told CNN in a statement that their latest recollection is that the President did in

fact dictate that memo about the Trump Tower meeting.

But Jay Sekulow did not tell CNN any kind of explanation as to why there were these conflicting statements about whether the president dictated that

memo.

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LU STOUT: CNN's Jim Acosta there. Now, Donald Trump's former campaign chairman is facing a new allegation that could increase pressure for him to

cooperate in that Russia investigation. The Special Counsel's office is accusing Paul Manafort of witness-tampering in his federal tax, and money

laundering case.

Manafort is currently under house arrest. In briefs filed in federal court, Robert Mueller's office asked the judge to send Manafort to jail

while he await trial.

The filing also states that Manafort contacted two potential witnesses about a Ukraine lobbying group, violating the terms of his release on bail.

Top Democrat Adam Schiff said that this shows just how desperate Manafort is.

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REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: We can imagine that in a case of this significance, watch this closely that the Special Counsel team is not going

to do this unless they had pretty darn ironclad evidence that Manafort is trying to essentially corrupt these witnesses.

So it's a big development, and I thin a sign that Manafort is willing to try anything, and do anything, and he's facing some serious time.

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LU STOUT: Manafort is awaiting two trials, one in Virginia in July, and one in Washington later this year. Now meanwhile, President Trump has

cancelled a White House visit for the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, citing the controversy over players kneeling in protest during the

national anthem.

[08:10:06] He tweeted, quote, unfortunately, only a small number of players decide to come, and we canceled the event. Staying in the locker room for

the playing of our National Anthem is as disrespectful to our country as kneeling, sorry, unquote.

Now less than a dozen Eagles players are planning to actually attend the event, and as an NFL source note, not one of them took a knee during the

anthem all regular season.

Now CNN's Kaitlan Collins joins me now live from the White House. And, Kaitlan, Trump has been tweeting this morning. We just read out his tweet.

Evidently he is still stewing over this issue he has with the Philadelphia Eagles.

KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: He certainly is. And what it comes down to were those low turn-out numbers that the President was

informed of yesterday, the White house informed of. Because as of Sunday was still on the White House's week ahead schedule, and then now it was

abruptly canceled less than 24 hours before they were supposed to come to the White House.

Because they were told only handful of players and coaches were actually planning on attending the event, something that infuriated the President,

and then he called it off, saying that they were unable to come because they didn't agree with their President.

Now the president is continuing to tweet to about this, this morning about the Eagles, while he is saying that as insinuating this has to do with that

national anthem backlash, which is a fight that the President has been willing to engage in since last fall.

We should note that none of the Eagles players in this last season knelt during the national anthem, or stayed back in the locker room. Now the

locker room is a rule that the NFL recently instituted, essentially that if a player was not going to stand for the national anthem, they must remain

in the locker room, or risk being fined.

The President seems to have that on his mind today, tweeting about the cancellation of the said event, and instead they're going to hold one

honoring the national anthem here at the White House. But the president in that event saying they're going to be honoring America.

And he said NFL, no escaping to the locker rooms. So it's unclear how the President is tying that to the Eagles, since that wasn't anything that was

related to them this in this last season. And actually a source told our Jake Tapper that when the Eagles were discussing coming to the White House,

for this event, it didn't even come up, the national anthem protest.

Of course, someone did voice support for those who did protest during the national anthem last year. Those players said that was not a protest of

the national anthem, but a protest of police brutality.

But here we are seeing the President continuing to open a new chapter into this culture war with the NFL, something the President has been more than

happy, more than eager to engage in because he believes it's a fight that resonates with his base.

LU STOUT: Kaitlan Collins reporting live from the White House, thank you. Now an Indian special court has charged prominent politician Shashi Tharoor

for abetting his wife's suicide. Sunanda Pushkar was found dead in a hotel room in 2014 in a high profiled case.

Tharoor lawyer says no warrants have been issued, and police recommended criminal charges against Tharoor last month. Our New Delhi Bureau Chief

Nikhil Kumar joins me now with more in the story. And, Nikhil, the court is going ahead with the case. Can you explain this charge that Shashi

Tharoor is facing? What is abetment to suicide? What does that mean?

NIKHIL KUMAR, CNN NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF: Well, Kristie, it's a very serious charge on the Indian law. It carry as punishment of up to 10 years

in prison. And as you say, it all stems from the death of Shashi Tharoor's later wife Sunanda Pushkar back in early 2014.

At the time, Sashi Tharoor was a minister in the then-government which was led by the Congress Party, which is now of course in opposition since Prime

Minister Narendra Modi and his BJP came to power later that year, and she was found dead in her luxury hotel room. She was only 51-years-old.

At the time of her death, Sashi Tharoor and Sunanda Pushkar had been married for seven years, now on the Indian law, that triggers an automatic

investigation into the circumstances of the death. That's what happened.

The police followed various lines of inquiry over the last four years, including at one point looking into the possibility of murder. They found

no evidence for that.

And as you said, last month, they filed -- they went to court, the special court in Delhi, and they recommended that Sashi Tharoor will be charged

with the abetment of suicide charge, which carries, as I have said, 10 years in cruelty in a marriage, and the court today accepted those

recommendations, and has summoned Tharoor to appear later -- in July -- on the 7th of July. Kristie.

LU STOUT: And how has Tharoor responded to the charges?

KUMAR: Well, Tharoor's response just came through shortly before we came on air. He has repeated something that he said before that these -- that

there's no basis to any of these charges.

If I can read -- read you a line from the statement. I would like to reiterate my, he says, that I find the charges preposterous, and baseless.

The product, he says, of a malicious and vindictive campaign against myself.

[08:15:01] This has -- you know, it's a similar statement he made last month, when the police initially recommended these charges. And he said

this again and again that he has had no involvement in his wife's -- in his wife's death.

And last month he also said that nobody who knew her, who knew Sunanda Pushkar when she was alive can believe that she would commit suicide. So

he stands by that. His colleagues in the opposition Congress Party has often -- have often repeated something that he hints at here, which is that

there is a malicious, politically motivated the said campaign in the past against him.

As I have said earlier, he was a minister in the then government led by the Congress Party when this tragedy occurred. And the investigation has

unfolded in the watch of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and his BJP in the opposite side of the aisle.

And the Congress last month, when the police went to court, very openly said that there is a political motivation behind these charges, behind this

campaign against Sashi Tharoor. Kristie.

LU STOUT: All right. A very high profiled case there. We appreciate your reporting. Nikhil Kumar live in New Delhi, thank you. You're watching

News Stream.

And keep it here, because after the break, a three-day trip with one goal in mind, the Israeli Prime Minister is trying to convince European leaders

to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal.

Also ahead, the first populist government in Western Europe will test its powers in a few hours' time. But in the meantime, its leaders are wasting

no time in pushing their agenda.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong. Welcome back. This is News Stream. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is on a mission to sink

the Iran nuclear deal. He is on this three-day trip across Europe trying to rally support against the deal of one the continents most powerful

leaders.

He is also addressing the threat that he Tehran poses to his country and the Middle East. On Monday, he met German Chancellor Angela Merkel,

telling Berlin that Iran's activities cross the Middle East cold drive more refugees to Europe.

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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: This will inflame another religious war. This time the religious war inside Syria and the

consequences would be many, many more refugees, and you know exactly where they'll come.

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LU STOUT: Mr. Netanyahu is also set to visit the U.K., but his next stop is Paris, where he will talk with President Emmanuel Macron in just a

couple of hours from now. Now CNN's Melissa Bell is standing by the French capital for us, and he joins us now.

And, Melissa, as Mr. Netanyahu continues his tour of Europe, and he is there to change minds on the issue of Iran, how receptive will Macron be to

his message?

MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Emmanuel Macron takes a very different view. And you know, Kristie, this was the leader who all through

just a month ago announced that even though the United States looks set to withdraw, and of course since they have, that the deal needed to be saved.

[08:20:03] And that in order for it to be saved, new discussions needed to begin on a new deal. This was Mr. Macron's plan. Today, Benjamin

Netanyahu will hope to extract from him at least -- at the very least, the idea that you will press on with that plan, within the context of a wider

deal for talks with Tehran on the issue with Iran's ballistic missile program, and its wider influence in the region.

But here's the trouble, Kristie, and here's why journalists will be listening very closely to see what the French President has to say today

alongside Benjamin Netanyahu. We've since found out, of course, that Iran has excluded the idea of any new talks on its ballistic program, and its

wider role in the region.

It is the Supreme Leader who announced that much in this, of course, on the very day when Iran is to go to Vienna to the IAEA to tell them look, we're

starting our uranium enrichment program again within the limits set by the Iran deal for now.

But just in case we might need to raise them later, should the deal pull apart. So you have this pressure coming from both sides, those who want to

see the deal fell like Benjamin Netanyahu here in Paris today, those who would like it preserved, like in Iran.

But you can see very little space for that plan that Emmanuel Macron had come up with design allow some hope to linger that the deal might be saved.

Kristie.

LU STOUT: And the warning that Netanyahu gave in Berlin, he warned that Iran's actions in the Middle East could start a new refugee crisis. Is

that playing into populist fears there in France and across Europe?

BELL: Absolutely. It was rather a shameless tapping into a very -- a very sensitive nerve of course in Germany and for Angela Merkel in particular.

But that will be heard here in France, too. These are sensitive issues at difficult times for those governments that are not populists on that

question.

And there is the other part of the threat that's extremely interesting as well, Kristie, not only do there could be more refugees heading to Europe

that Iran is allowed to continue as it has been in the region, but also the threat to European companies.

Of course, you know that a lot of European companies are still hoping to do business with Iran. Indeed many analysts say that the survival of the Iran

deal depends on them continuing to be able to do business with Iran, maintaining, developing those trade ties.

But we've just heard yesterday that Peugeot is pulling out for now, and unless they can organize an exemption from Washington, Total did the same

thing a couple of weeks ago, so you're seeing these European companies not being reassured by European guarantees that they can protect them from

American secondary sanction, and that could be the death of the Iran deal in itself. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Melissa Bell live from us from Paris, thank you. Now the first test of Italy's new government is fast approaching. Just a few hours the

Italian Senate will vote on whether to approve the first populist government in Western Europe, and the first Eurosceptic government in a

founding E.U. nation.

But after months of political uncertainty, the new Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte is expected to win a vote of confidence for his government. Now

meanwhile, the country's new interior minister called on the European Union to give Italy more assistance to receive refugees, saying that Italy will

no longer be Europe's refugee camp.

CNN's Delia Gallagher joins us now live from Rome. And, Delia, first, that speech to parliament by Giuseppe Conte, his first public test as Italy's

New Prime Minister, did it satisfy his power base? How did he do?

DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, it was really the first time that we were all to hear in depth from the Prime Minister. He's

spoken in a very impassionate way for about an hour and 12 minutes to the Senate. He said amongst other things that if being populist meant

listening to the people, he was happy to be called populist.

He said the first priority for his government would be the social issues for Italians such an increase in minimum wage, a guaranteed basic income,

and a lowering of the pension age. Amongst other things, he also spoke about immigration. That is the one big topic which he says will be the

litmus test for dialogue with Europe.

He says that immigration has become a business, which has grown under false solidarity he says, and they want to look again at the Dublin regulation

about the distribution of asylum seekers throughout Europe, so again an important point about Italy and Europe.

For them, it's about the social question about immigration. And finally, Kristie, a message to the international community when the Prime Minister

reiterated that the United States was a privileged partner, and a privileged historical partner for Italy.

But he says that they will also be proponents he says of an opening towards Russia. In particular, lifting sanctions against Russia, which have been

emplaced by the E.U. since 2014. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Delia Gallagher live for us from Rome, thank you. Now, Apple has a whole new line of features set forts IOS 12 launch. One of them is

actually aimed at keeping you off your iPhone.

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[08:25:01] TIM COOK, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, APPLE: I thought I was fairly disciplined about this, and I was wrong.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream, and these are your world headlines.

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LU STOUT: Authorities say death toll could rise in Guatemala as rescue crews try to reach towns overrun by burning lava from the Fuego volcano.

At least 69 people have been killed after the volcano erupted on Sunday. Crews are struggling to find survivors as ash and burning debris hamper

their efforts.

An Indian Special Court has charged prominent Indian politician Shashi Tharoor with abetting his wife's suicide. Tharoor's lawyer says no

warrants have been issued, so he won't be arrested right away.

Now Police recommended criminal charges last moth after a four-year investigation into the death of Tharoor's wife, he calls the charges

preposterous and baseless.

The wife of Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak underwent a three-hour grilling earlier. Rosmah Mansor and her husband were banned from leaving

the country after elections last month. Investigators are looking in how billions of dollars went missing from a sovereign state fund known as the

1Malaysia Development Berhad, started by Mr. Najib. The couple has denied any wrong doing.

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LU STOUT: We just got a taste of what Apple has in store for the nest IOS update. The IOS 12 already has a line up of fresh feature including new

animojis, and memojis, and animated version of you, just starts spamming your friends with.

Now you can customize it to look exactly like yourself, and it will mimic your expressions as well. Now adding to the bazaar mix of the real world

with the digital up will also unveil new augmented reality tools for app developers like Lego, who is working on multiplayer games for users to play

with A.R.

Apple did touch on the major issues this year, namely, data privacy. Safari will now turn off Facebook's like and share buttons by default, and

it's also getting new anti-tracking features. Now Apple is also looking beyond users' data, and addressing the problem of digital addiction.

IOS 12 will have tools to essentially baby sit users, you may track their phone use, and set locks to limit phone times. Now our Laurie Segall, she

recently spoke to CEO Tim Cook abut the phone addiction problem. Let's get to her.

And she joins us from San Jose, California. And, Laurie, thank you for joining us. A number of highlights from your exclusive interview, but

first, what did the Apple Chief tell you about this new tool to manage smartphone addiction?

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'm a little bit worried about this tool. I don't want to know how long I'm sitting on my phone. But

know we're going to have the ability to do that. There is -- it's a tool called screen time.

[08:30:00] It's essentially a dashboard that will tell you how many, I guess in my case, hours you spent on your phone. You also will be able to

set app limits. All sorts of different types of features.

I had the opportunity to sit down with Tim Cook. This is after the developer's big show yesterday, after the conference, and I asked him, you

know, what's the point in trying to get us to use our phone less. Take a listen.

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SEGALL (on camera): You guys announced a tech addiction tool that will almost help us limit our screen time. So what's the thinking behind that?

TIM COOK, CEO, APPLE: You know, we've never been focused on usage as a key parameter. We want people to be incredibly satisfied and empowered by our -

- the devices that we ship, but we've never wanted people to spend a lot of time on them or all of their time on them.

It's a personal thing as to how much is too much. We thought a lot about this. And we are rolling out great tools to both make people aware of how

much time they're spending in the apps that they're spending in them but also how many times they pick up their phone, how many notifications they

get, who is sending them the notifications.

SEGALL (on camera): So tell me about your own time habit (ph). What did you learn?

COOK: Yeah, I've been using it and I have to tell you: I thought I was fairly disciplined about this. And I was wrong. When I began to get the

data, I found I was spending a lot more time than I should.

SEGALL (on camera): (INAUDIBLE).

COOK: I don't want to give you all the apps but just too much.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SEGALL: Even the CEO of Apple is not immune to tech addiction. That makes me feel a little bit better about myself. But, you know, this is a larger

conversation about the impact of technology, how many times we pick up our phone, what it is doing to our mental health, what it is doing to our

children. So that is something a little bit more serious that was addressed here this year, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, fascinating to hear even the Apple CEO admitting that sometimes he uses his smartphone too much. Apple taking active steps not

just to, you know, prevent smartphone addiction or try to mitigate that but also to boost user privacy by locking Facebook's data collection practices.

Tell us more about that.

SEGALL: Yeah, that was interesting. You know, they're creating a blocking tool that will make it harder for you to get tracked by social networks

like Facebook. They actually put a screenshot of Facebook app during the conference. They will have tools to be able to do that. You will see a pop-

up that you have to opt in (ph) to be tracked.

You know, this is a swipe (ph) at Facebook at a very sensitive time we've heard the CEO -- we've heard Tim Cook go after Mark Zuckerberg in light of

the privacy scandal but also a larger statement on privacy in general which is something Tim Cook has been pretty open about. Listen to what he told

me.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COOK: Well, I think the privacy thing has gotten totally out of control. And I think most people are not aware of who is tracking them, how much

they're being tracked, and sort of the large amounts of detailed data that are out there about them.

SEGALL (on camera): We as users just have to re-envisioned the idea of privacy. Is is a luxury at this point?

COOK: No. To me and we feel this very deeply, we think privacy is a fundamental human right, so that is the angel that we look at it. Privacy

from an American point of view is one of these key civil liberties that define what it is to be American.

SEGAL (on camera): Fundamental human right. Do you think the last year has shown fundamental human right to be under attack?

COOK: I think it has been under attack. And we've been saying that for quite sometime. And I don't think at this point it's healthy to point a

finger or anything like that. I'm more focused on how can we make the web an unbelievable place for not only ourselves but more importantly the kids

are on it.

SEGALL (on camera): Part of the announcement was giving users the ability to block tracking --

COOK: Yeah.

SEGALL (on camera): -- and basically there was the image of Facebook up there. Is it Apple stepping up where other companies aren't doing the job?

We are always (ph) thinking behind giving -- it's certainly a very interesting moment to make this announcement.

COOK: We are not focused on any singular company. We are focused on the practice of tracking people when they don't know that they're being

tracked. We are -- what we believe is one of the most offensive things is when you are on another website but this website that you were on three or

four times earlier is still tracking what you're doing. We don't think that's reasonable for people.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SEGALL: It's interesting because at developers' conference here, you see a lot of really interesting developers coming and building cool features that

will stay in our iPhone in the future but really taking on some important topics like privacy, data collection, also tech addiction which I think is

something that is kind of it's next phase of technology that all of us are thinking about, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Absolutely. It's interesting to hear Apple yet again tasked itself as a defender of digital privacy. Laurie Segall joining us live from

San Jose, California.

[08:35:00] Thank you so much for sharing your conversation with Tim Cook and take care.

One of the former designers of the iPhone has actually been warning about device addiction for quite sometime now. Tony Fadell is founder and former

CEO of Nest. He is a veteran to tech industry. He joins me now live from Paris. Thank you so much for joining us here on the program.

Let's talk about tech addiction because yes, you have been very, very vocal about how you think Apple should tackle device addiction. What do you think

of Apple's new feature, the "Screen Time" tool and is it enough?

TONY FADELL, FOUNDER AND FORMER CEO, NEST: Well, I think what Apple released yesterday was a great first step in actually battling and bringing

awareness to this issue. It's great to hear Tim Cook also speak about his own personal experiences with the tools and his own phone usage.

So yes, they have done a great job with "Screen Time" as a first step. But when I looked at it, I think the tool can go a bit further.

LU STOUT: It's a great first step. They should follow up on it. How?

FADELL: Well, specifically, if you look at it right now, they are tracking -- you know, they are giving you your data for both your iPad and your

iPhone usage. But they're not including computers, your laptop.

You know, adults or older kids, they can spend between 30 and 50 percent of their day on their computers, browsing, e-mailing, messaging, playing

games. That needs to be part of that same digital data to allow us to see how much consumption we have for a day.

LU STOUT: Got it. So you have to assess (ph) "Screen Time." It requires (ph) multiple screens across multiple devices. I want to ask you, just your

thoughts about when you were designing and inventing the iPhone over a decade ago and did it ever occur to you just how powerful and seductive the

smartphone could be?

FADELL: We had no clue. This was unintended consequences. It was amazing how much it changed the way we work at Apple even just after the first six

months or a year when we have the devices on our hand. You know, our world has changed. But we have no idea once the app store (ph) was added.

And then there is, you know, good and bad apps out there. But when the bad apps took hold and really got us to be addictive in many ways that we have

no that would happen.

LU STOUT: So from a design perspective, what more should device makers, designers, the tech industry do to help us use our devices a little bit

less?

FADELL: Sure. I think the first thing obviously is we have to have data transparency like we are seeing from Apple. Also, Google has similar kind

of thing. We need to have controls. You're seeing Apple putting in really great controls as well as Google on that regard.

What we also need is we need education. We need to teach people about what good apps look like, what bad apps look like. We need something that kind

of -- is similar to how we think about food. Sugars, fats, starches, proteins.

How do we think about these applications and how they affect us inside, just like we think about our food. What is the right caloric intake? What

is the vegetarian in a digital world? What is flexitarian in a digital world? These are kinds of things that we need to answer.

And what we also need to have is Apple needs to open up the things that they introduced yesterday to third parties. Third parties need to be able

to take that data and be able to create new controls based on what they have so we can create different solutions for different people at different

ages.

If you think about it, there is not one size fits all. It's once again a great first step from Apple but we do need to let the community go off and

figure out other things to do with this data to help people beyond what Apple has done already.

LU STOUT: Absolutely and amen to that. There needs to be greater transparency and as you point out, the same way that there is junk food,

there is junk technology. There needs to be greater literacy on them. We have to leave it there. Tony Fadell, thank yo so much for joining us here

on the program and sharing your thoughts with us and do take care.

Now, a pilot project is underway in Dubai. It is one that could transform the way that we share our academic records. CNN's business and tech

correspondent Samuel Burke joins us now with more on that. Samuel?

SAMUEL BURKE, CNN BUSINESS AND TECH CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, so often when we talk about blockchain technology, it goes right over people's head.

So I have been looking for more tangible examples of blockchain to help us all better understand it. That has taken me to Dubai where they have

ambitions to become a global blockchain hub.

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BURKE (voice over): At the University of Dubai, there is an air of anticipation. The school is at the center of a blockchain experiment which

could radically change how all our information flows around the world.

In the registrar's office, students are busy requesting official university approve stamps on documents like transcripts and decrees (ph). They're

require to do things like transferring to our universities, securing jobs, and residency in other countries. The process is often complicated. It can

take weeks to get documents stamped, attested, posted, and approved.

[08:40:03] It cal also result in fraud. But blockchain (INAUDIBLE) its increased security with each student getting their own unique digital

academic passport. The passport will contain your stamp and attested document in a digital format.

They are then placed on the blockchain which uses math and cryptography (ph) almost like a biometric fingerprint to create a secure open

decentralized database. The blockchain stores this information permanently across the seamless network of computers which talk to each other and

verify the documents are authentic.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of the fundamental components of this is it puts power into the hands of the student. I don't have to constantly chase my

university to request 10 documents for 10 job applications. I now have one digital document which I can share infinitely for a variety of

opportunities.

So once that is issued to me and I have this in my digital academic passport, I can choose how to share it, with whom to share, and use

whatever medium I like.

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BURKE: The start up there behind the blockchain technology is called "Educhain." They are Canadian company which has gone all the way to Dubai

because there is such a big push there to try and get ahead of blockchain with hopes of becoming a blockchain global capital with using this

technology, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Technology that is a game change of academia (ph) potentially. Samuel Burke, thank you so much.

That is "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout. Don't go anywhere. "World Sport" with Alex Thomas is next.

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