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Aired July 15, 2018 - 16:00 ET
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[16:00:00] MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Just horrible, horrible news. OK.
Polo Sandoval, thank you.
CNN's special coverage of the Helsinki summit continues now with Anderson Cooper.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Hello and thanks you for joining me. I'm Anderson Cooper. I want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world to our special coverage of the summit of Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump.
We are here live in Helsinki. And we are hours away from the highly anticipated sit down with President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Trump arriving here in Helsinki, Finland. He is at the hotel for the night. The two leaders will meet in the morning. It is quite late at night here, though you would not know that looking at the light out.
The stakes for the summit are certainly high even now -- but now even higher in the wake of the special counsel Robert Mueller's latest indictments against 12 Russian intelligence officers for meddling in the U.S. election. Listen to what President Trump told CBS News about the meeting.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is your goal from the Putin meeting?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I will let you know after the meeting. I have absolutely. It is mutually agreed to have a meeting. I think it is a good thing to meet. I do believe in the meetings. Look, I believe that having a meeting with Chairman Kim because a good thing. I think that having meetings with the President of China was a very good thing. I believe it is really good. So having meetings with Russia, China and North Korea, I believe in it. Nothing bad is going to come out of it, and maybe some good will come out, but I go in with low expectation. I'm not going in with the high expectation.
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COOPER: That is the President being interviewed by CBS News. Secretary of state Mike Pompeo just arriving in Helsinki, I should
point out. It was just after 11:00 p.m. at night. We are learning that Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer spoke with Mike Pompeo today. He told -- he said that he doesn't believe the summit should happen. But if it does quote "President Trump should press hard on Putin on the issue of election interference. He can't simply raise except Putin's denial and then let him off of the hook.
CNN's chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta joins us live now.
Jim, what do we expect during this meeting? There is not, unlike in some -- in past administration, there is really nothing particular on the agenda.
JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That is right, Anderson. And first of all, we should call it a summit. President Trump, unlike his top aides in the administration, is calling it a summit. He tweeted it earlier today on the way into Helsinki. But the national security adviser John Bolton said earlier today, he is not expecting very much out of this summit. He said that at this point we should not expect what they call deliverables out of this high level meeting between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
But at the same time, you did hear the President touch on a number of subjects in that interview with CBS when he asked who he considers to be a foe around the world. He described the European Union of all things as a foe of the United States. Obviously, most people in the United States don't agree with that, but it is giving you a sense of the President's mindset going into the summit with Putin.
The President was also asked about those Russians who are indicted by the justice department on Friday for hacking into the Democratic Party emails during the 2016 election. Obviously, it is of great interest as to whether or not the President would demand that Putin turn over those Russians. And here is what he said when he was asked that question.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Russians who were indicted, would you ask Putin to send them here?
TRUMP: Well, I might. I have not thought of that, but certainly, I will be asking about it. But again, this was during the Obama administration. They were doing what it was during the Obama administration. And I heard that they were trying or the people were trying to hack into the RNC, too, the Republican National Committee, but we had much better defenses. I have been told that by a number of people, we had much better defenses so they couldn't.
I think the DNC should be ashamed of themselves to allowing themselves to be hacked. They had bad defenses, and they were able to be hacked.
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ACOSTA: Now, one of the things that the President did not mention in the comment is that on the same day according to the justice department that the Russians started to hacking into the Democratic Party emails, President Trump gave a news conference in July of 2016, Anderson. I was that press conference when then candidate Trump then said, Russia, if you are listening, please go find Hillary Clinton's lost emails. People are wondering and it is still an open question to this day whether or not that was an open invitation to the Russian to hack into the Democratic Party emails. At the time, the Trump campaign said that comment was a joke.
But Anderson, one thing that should also be I think unsettling to people back in the United States, the President tweeting on his way into the summit in Helsinki. Once again referring to the press as the enemy of the people just as he is about to sit down with Vladimir Putin, somebody who has been known to be oppressive towards journalists, even has been accused of being responsible for the murders of journalists back in Russia. So not exactly setting the best tone when it comes to the perspective or respecting the democratic freedoms around the world, Anderson.
[16:05:12] COOPER: But Jim, we should point also Robert Mueller put a time and a date on when it was that Russia actually started going after some of Hillary Clinton's emails, and it was right -- it was the same day and after President Trump's at the time said what the campaign said was a joke about, you know, Russia, if you are out there, we would love for you find those 30,000 emails.
Jim, a lot to look forward. Thanks very much.
Not everyone is certainly on the same page for this meeting. Mr. Trump's staff, Democrats and others seems split on what they see is the outcome of any other discussion with President Putin. Just listen.
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AMB. JON HUNTSMAN, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA: It is inconceivable that we can solve some of the international issues without engaging Russia sat some level. Now, right now, there no trust in the relationship. And because of the, problem solving is practically impossible. So this is an attempt to see if we can diffuse and take some of the drama and quite frankly some of the danger out of the relationship right now.
SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: After President Trump's whiplash performances in Brussels and the United Kingdom and the G-7 summit, I will say it is difficult to predict with clarity what President Trump will or won't do with Vladimir Putin. That is what gives me real pause.
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COOPER: Here with me now, CNN counterterrorism analyst Phil Mudd and "New York Times" White House reporter Julie Hirschfield-Davis.
Phil, can this meeting -- you know, I said before that it is really nothing on the agenda. Obviously, there are issues that they want to discuss and that they are preparing for, but it is not like in summit from years past where there has been meetings between the secretary of the state and the Russian foreign minister where this is essentially a meeting to sign a document, an agreement that has already been made.
PHILIP MUDD, CNN COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: I mean, this is sort of humorous. Only in Washington, D.C. where you walk in and say we had a meeting and it is therefore a success. Any other cities across America, you say a meeting is an end, as the beginning of the end.
There are couple of things they can be talking here. Obviously, and this is below the radar, I know for a lot of the Americans, we have lost sight of Syria. Syria is an end game stake. And there is one major country that owns part of that end game, that is Russia. You could be talking about what is the next stage for Russia, for a country. The United States had said Assad is not the future. Well, he will be the future.
COOPER: You also had U.S. forces and Russian forces working in a theatre of war in very close proximity that requires coordination.
MUDD: Sure. And you have both the -- in the past few days, the Israelis and the Iranians going to Moscow to say what is the future for the Syria? Where are the Americans in this?
The second thing that is below the radar is strategic defense. There is a missile agreement that expires in 2021. It is an agreement that would signed on the Obama administration. Are we going to the continue that or not?
Typically, you would have a national security council that meets under national security adviser John Bolton to say, what are the options for the President? It doesn't that that is happening in this --.
And Julie, it is fascinating here. The president say that the DNC should be ashamed of themselves. I'm not sure I have never heard of him say Vladimir Putin or the Russians should be ashamed of themselves for attacking our democracy.
JULIE HIRSCHFIELD DAVIS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: No. And he has never said that. Now, members of the administration said have. They have been talking about malign activities and how this is an opportunity for him. That's of the things they want him to bring up and they expect him for him. That is one of the things they want him to bring up and the expect him to bring.
But the President has been much tougher on the rhetoric against Democrats and frankly, Barack Obama since it happened on his watch, he keep saying, than he has against Vladimir Putin about this election meddling. And I think that is some of what give concerns to people outside of the administrations, certainly, on the Democratic side, but also some of aides inside of the administration who don't really know what he is going to be bringing up, because as he said, there is no set agenda for this meeting.
They could talk about Syria. They probably should. They could talk about arms controls. The President has said he wants to do that. But he is not going in as you have heard him say in that interview with CBS with any real goal. And that is a great concern to people who know Vladimir Putin is very well briefed for this meeting. He has prepared for this meeting and been, you know, quite conscientious about keeping up with what the administration is doing even if Donald Trump has not been taking those briefings. And so they are afraid that, you know, he is a former intelligence operative. He is going to try to manipulate Donald Trump.
COOPER: And they are meeting one-on-one with interpreters, but no one else in the room, and no one keeping a record of it.
DAVIS: Right. And the pattern here has been in the past with the Russians is that they will come out of the meeting and they will say -- they will tell whatever their narrative is that to Russia and to Vladimir Putin, and that the administration, our administration will be on the defensive. That's what happened last year in Hamburg after the President had that three-hour marathon session with Vladimir Putin. It wasn't a formal summit. And that I think what people are afraid of now given that there is no nobody in the room to say, hey, that is not exactly what happened.
COOPER: You know, Phil, you spent your career both in the CIA and FBI thinking about threat matrix and who is a foe of the United States. I wanted to play something that the President said when asked by Jeff Lord of CBS News about who are the foes of the United States.
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TRUMP: Well, I think that we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now you would not think of the European Union, but they are foe. Russians are foe in certain respects. China is a foe of economically certainly they are a foe, but that does not mean that they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitors. They want to do well and we want to do well.
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[16:10:20] COOPER: I am wondering, Phil, in your time of thinking about the threats to the United States, did you EVER think of the European Union as a foe?
MUDD: No, I thought of it as a place to go to get great food actually.
But if you are look at the question of foe, I think there is a simple sort of litmus test you can use. Let's step back from economics and step towards some basic American values. That is how do you treat the freedom of speech including the free press? And how do you treat the Democratic process? Opposition parties?
You look at the people the President has favored -- the Turks, the Egyptians, the Chinese, even in Koreans, the Russians. There are characteristics of these countries that contrast with the Europeans. They don't like a free press and they don't like a democratic opposition. This is the President who said that he is a stable genius saying I have the ideas for how America should move forward and when the press and the Democrats and others oppose me, they are wrong. I would rather be in Vladimir Putin's shoes. I think that is what he is saying.
COOPER: I also want to play something that congressman Trey Gowdy said about whether or not even with this Mueller investigation is a witch-hunt, because that term the President continues to use it even after that President was briefed on the 12 indictments, and even after the indictments were publicly released. So let's play Congressman Gowdy.
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REP. TREY GOWDY (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: I don't think it is a witch- hunt. I have never thought that it is a witch-hunt. We have two series of indictments against the Russians, one for the social media, and other for the unlawful intrusions.
Russia attacked this country in 2016. I would ask the President to give some serious consideration. Your first request of Vladimir Putin needs to be, tell us which airport we can pick up the 25 Russians that tried to interfere with the fundamentals of our democracy if you really claim you had nothing to do with it, then you should be shocked as we are that your military was being used to impact our election. Tell us where you are going to extradite those folks, because an American grand jury indicted them for undermining our democracy.
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COOPER: No. I mean, assuming these indictments are true and correct, Vladimir Putin has lied to the President's face. And the question is in the summit, will the President of the United States actually call Vladimir Putin at the very least on lying to him directly?
DAVIS: Well, he hasn't before. I mean, there have been two opportunities. I was with him in Vietnam last time when he pulled aside with President Putin and he basically described the conversation, you know. I asked him again. He said that he did not do it. And frankly, he said at that time, it is insulting to him when I keep on asking him and he says that he did not do it. I mean, what Congressman Gowdy says --.
COOPER: He also said (INAUDIBLE) that he believed him. And then you kind of backtracked and say --
DAVIS: Well, he is sincere when he did not do it and he believed it. There is no scenario if you look at the facts here in which Vladimir Putin believe that he did not do it. I mean, he directed this campaign. And if you are looking at these indictments that have just come down, it is very clear that the Russian intelligence was involved in this, and so the President, you know, has twice refrained from confronting him directly on that, and saying you need to own up to this and you need to do something about it, which should extradition in this case potentially.
I think there is no reason to think he is going to take a different tact. He keeps on saying that he feels that this is an impediment to a better relationship with Russia. And I think that in his mind how is going to say.
COOPER: Julie Hirschfield Davis, Phil Mudd, thanks very much.
Certainly, a lot to watch for when this summit gets under way. It is now just about 13 minutes past 11:00 p.m. here in Helsinki. The stakes are high as President Trump readies for the meeting with Vladimir Putin.
Coming up next, a look at how all of this is playing inside of Russia.
[16:17:54] COOPER: Welcome back to lovely Helsinki, Finland. We are live from an area called the Alice sea pool which really could not be any more beautiful this location. It is 11:17 p.m. at night. There is still light out and still people are strolling around. You can see the Presidential palace behind me where the historic meeting between Presidents Trump and Vladimir Putin will o take place.
Mr. Putin is getting great reviews at home over the success of the world cup. Today, he met with the French President Emanuel Macron and later awarded the world cup trophy to France. Obviously, a huge celebrations in France, itself. There is still a great deal at stake for Russia that we should tell you about.
CNN international correspondent Matthew Chance has been based in Moscow now for years. He is here in Helsinki with me.
How has Putin been preparing?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I expect he has been preparing, Anderson, very carefully. That is his MO when he has meet leaders in the past. He doesn't going into these meeting not knowing what he wants, not knowing what he is going to ask or what is going to discuss.
I mean, one of the characteristics of this Kremlin leader is that he has got a complete mastery of all the facts. It is very difficult to catch him out. I mean, certainly, I understand President Trump has also been preparing for or the last couple of days as well. He is going to need that preparation if he is going to be a challenge for this Russian leader.
COOPER: And you know, you are also dealing with a person who is a former intelligence operative for the KGB.
CHANCE: That is right. And that training, I expect will come into play. And remember, he is also a very accomplished politician, but never mind the KGB past. He is one of the most successful politicians Russian has seen. And already, he has achieve a political win here. The fact this meeting is taking place despite the fact that Russia has been isolated by the rest of the world and there is sanction from United States, he has got this one-on-one meeting. It is a win already. COOPER: Yes. Matthew Chance, thanks very much.
I want to talk more about the summit. Joining me now is Steven Pifer, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine who also served in U.S. embassies in Warsaw, Moscow as well as London. Also with me is Stephen Sestanovich, a former U.S. ambassador at large to former Soviet Union.
Thank you both for joining us.
I would like to start with you Ambassador Sestanovich. You were the senior official overseeing policy toward Russia during the Clinton administration. What would be your advice to President Trump going into this meeting tomorrow with Putin?
[16:20:14] STEPHEN SESTANOVICH, SENIOR FELLOW TO RUSSIA-EURASIA STUDIES: Well, know what you want. The biggest problem that I think that President Trump is radiating in everything that he says about the meeting is that it is not clear what he wants to come out of it. And the second problem is make sure that you is got the government and the country behind you.
The President's biggest problem coming out of this meeting is likely to be that most people even in his own administration are going to be regarding it somewhere between unwise and outrageous to have done it or agreed to anything that he does. He has a big problem, and that is, he can sit down with Putin, but if he has got such opposition here at home to what he is doing, the value of it for himself and Putin is slight.
COOPER: Ambassador Pifer, President Trump is expected to meet one-on- one with Vladimir Putin before allowing aides into the room. I want to play you something that the Democratic Senator Mark Warner said about that idea.
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SEN. MARK WARNER (D), VIRGINIA: We need to have other Americans in the room. I -- Vladimir Putin is a trained KGB agent. He may come in with maps of Syria or maps of Ukraine. And frankly, I think he will take advantage of this President who we know does not do much prep work before these meetings. We need other individuals from his administration in the room so that we know that at least someone is going to be pressing the Russians on making sure that they don't interfere with future U.S. elections.
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COOPER: Ambassador Pifer, what do you say about that, because certainly a lot of supporters of the President will say look, he has held many business meetings. He is a very savvy in business and now clearly in politics. What are the dangers of having him meet one-on- one with Vladimir Putin?
STEVEN PIFER, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE: Well, there are three reasons I believe that President Trump should have a note taker in the room in addition to the interpreter. I mean, the interpreter will take some note, but he or she has to focus on the interpretation. And there really are I think three reasons for somebody else to be there.
First of all, to help the President with detail, because, you know, Vladimir Putin is going to with be coming in having mastered this account, and can overwhelm President Trump with detail. The second reason is to have an accurate record of what commitments were made so that then the national security adviser Bolton and the national Security Council can ensure that the U.S. government then carries out those commitments.
But I think the third reason, and perhaps the most reason personally for Donald Trump is self-protection. He should want to have a very detail and accurate record coming out of the meeting to protect him against the people saying what did you give up for the Russia.
COOPER: Ambassador Sestanovich, you wrote a piece in "the New York Times." I saw it called, the art of containing Trump and Putin. And in it, you write and I'm quoting if Mr. Trump and his advisors want to get along with Moscow in a way that serves American interest, they have to prove they can deliver, from Mr. Putin on down, Russian officials keep asking why Mr. Trump has been so powerless to implement his own preferred policy.
It is a fair question, one the President must ask himself. The answer is not some deep state conspiracy against him. It is that neither the White House nor the Kremlin understands the American policy process. Can you just explain more on what you mean by that?
SESTANOVICH: Sure. The Russian theory of the case, what's be been wrong with Russian/American relations is that this is just a domestic fight between the President and his opponents. And they would rather not look at the substance of the controversy.
The President, I think, has tended to exaggerate his own ability to just lay down the law and say, this is what our policy toward Russia is going to be. He has not really taken account of the fact that, he does even really perhaps remember that last summer when he met with Putin, the Congress was so shocked by the way he talked about Ukraine and election meddling that they imposed very strict restrictions on his ability to lift sanctions against Russia.
Well, that is a sign that authorities are divided in our system. If you can't carry the country with you, you can't carry the Congress with you or your own administration with you, you end up having people limit your freedom of action. And that is, and in a way, the biggest problem for Putin is that he will have a great meeting with Trump. Trump will say it is a fantastic relationship, but actually, he won't have moved the needle in Washington. People will be horrified by what he has done. That won't be to his advantage.
COOPER: Ambassador Sestanovich and ambassador Pifer, good discussion. Appreciate it. Thank you both very much.
CNN's special coverage of the upcoming Trump meeting -- Trump-Putin meeting continues in just a moment. A lot of news happening back in the U.S. though. For that I want to
turn back to Martin Savidge -- Martin.
[16:25:14] SAVIDGE: Anderson, thanks very much.
A stunning rebuke back here at home after California Democratic senator Diane Feinstein had threw their support behind her rival. And he is going to talk to us live next.
But first, before we go to the break, in Anaheim, California, a chef name Bruno Serrato owns a successful high-end restaurant. Yet, for more than a decade, this Italian chef's favorite customers have been the hungry kids who received his free pasta dinners every night.
Seven years ago, Bruno was recognized and honored as top ten CNN hero. But last year, tragedy struck. He responded though in true heroic fashion.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My passion is feeding the children, the hungry.
But February 4, 2017, at 4:00 in the morning I get a phone call that my castle is on fire. To see your restaurant with which you love for 30 years going in flame and ashes. I have no more kitchen. I cannot feed the kids anymore. But a miracle happened.
How many kids love pasta?
This is going to feed the kids 15 months later, and we fed the kids.
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SAVIDGE: So how did Chef Bruno turn tragedy into triumph? Go to CNN.com/heroes to find out. You can get the full story and nominate someone you know to be a CNN hero.
In the meantime, we will be right back.
[16:31:09] MARTIN SAVIDGE, NEWSROOM ANCHOR, CNN: Guess you could call it a political earthquake in a stunning move. California Democrats endorsed another member of the party over long time incumbent Senator Dianne Feinstein. Party leaders voted overwhelmingly to back the more liberal Kevin De Leon, the state lawmaker from Los Angeles got 65 percent of that endorsement vote and Feinstein got 7 percent.
And the rest voted no endorsement. De Leon celebrated with the win or the wins saying today's vote is a clear-eyed rejection of politics as usual in Washington, D.C. We have proven to the world that California can forge a path for the rest of the nation. And with me now is Kevin De Leon, and thank you, sir, for joining us. What do you believe that your endorsement win -- what does that signal for the Democratic Party? KEVIN DE LEON, (D) UNITED STATES SENATOR: Well, thank you, Martin,
and good afternoon. I want to say that I am amazingly honored to have the support and the confidence and the seal of approval of the California Democratic Party. I think the vote yesterday was a reflection of many Californians who want a change.
That believes that the status quo in Washington is simply not working for them, and that it is the same usual politics that keeps going on and on and on but has not improved the quality of life for many Californians, for many Americans regardless of who they are and regardless of what god they pray to, who they love or where they're from.
And I think that this is a real opportunity to travel up and down the state of California and really engage with the voters and provide them a real contrast between the status quo and the senior incumbent and a new face.
SAVIDGE: You are still obviously considered a long shot to defeat Dianne Feinstein in the fall. But what does the Democratic Party from your perspective need to do going into what everyone considers to be absolutely crucial midterms.
DE LEON: Well, I would say this is that obviously, the June 5th primary is a very different dynamic from the general elections. And I think that is a party that we all have to come together without question, have a very singular theme, improving the lives of working Californians. And in fact, all of Americans throughout the country, we have to come together.
We have to be united to push a message, a message that provides economic opportunity, a real affordable education opportunity, and quite frankly Medicare for all, not Medicare for some. So I am looking for it. This is going to incredible campaign up and down the state of California. And I am really looking forward to joining other Congressional Democratic diplomats who are looking to flip those seats and restore some decency and common sense back to Washington.
SAVIDGE: The conservatives of course, the rise of the younger progressives like yourself and others who have won in other states is dividing the Democratic Party right at the time, as I said, you are going into this very crucial midterm election process. How would you respond to that?
DE LEON: Well, I would say this, Martin, is that I think that choice is always a good thing. And no one should ever sell you a different bill of goods that choice is a bad thing. I think that having an opportunity to contrast the values, vision, and accomplishments and bring that fight to Washington, D.C., actually benefits all voters regardless of who they vote for at the end of the day.
The Californians really want the fighters in Washington, D.C., to take on this administration who has proven that they will do everything within their power to undermine, to usurp our values, our policies in California when it comes to climate change, our environmental laws. And quite frankly, tear the innocent babies from the arms of their mothers. So this is a good thing actually in California and choice is always a good thing.
SAVIDGE: Do you think that Dianne Feinstein has not been a fighter then?
DE LEON: I'm sorry, one more time, Martin?
SAVIDGE: Do you think that Senator Feinstein has not been a fighter? You are saying what is needed now is people to go Washington to essentially fight. It sounds like fight this administration and she has not been able to do that?
[16:35:00] DE LEON: Yeah. I could say this, is that now is not the time for complacency or for someone to plead patience and hope that perhaps with the fingers crossed that Donald Trump could learn and become a good President in the future. Now is not the time for complacency to sit on the sidelines, but now is to be in the front lines doing everything within their power to move the policies that improve the human condition for all Californians. And in fact, that means Republicans as well too.
SAVIDGE: Kevin De Leon, we appreciate you coming on the program today. We will follow your campaign. We'll follow California, of course.
DE LEON: Thank you. Thank you so much.
SAVIDGE: Coming up, we will go back to Helsinki, Finland where President Trump will meet Vladimir Putin just about hours from now. We'll also hear why Trump continues to dismiss the Russia investigation despite the indictment of 12 Russian intelligent officers Friday.
[16:40:00] ANDERSON COOPER, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Thanks for joining me. I am Anderson Cooper live in Helsinki, Finland, the site of tomorrow's high stakes meeting between Presidents Trump and Vladimir Putin. It is almost midnight here. And as you can tell, there is still light out. It is incredibly beautiful here in Helsinki. As President Trump prepares for that summit, he continues calling the Russian investigation a witch hunt.
Even after 12, Russians were indicted accused of hacking to computers the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Here's what the President told CBS news.
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PRES. DONALD TRUMP (R), UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: I think we are greatly hampered by this whole witch hunt that's going on in the United States, the Russian witch hunt, the rigged situation. I watched some of the testimony, even though I am in Europe of Strzok. And I thought it was a disgrace to our country. I thought that it was an absolute disgrace.
(END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: Joining me now is Norm Eisen. He is the former ambassador of the Czech Republic and a CNN Contributor. Ambassador, the White House is also arguing that these indictments actually exonerate the President of any collusion. They have not been critical of Russia in the wake of these indictments, A, do you buying the idea that this clears the White House of collusion, and also does this surprise you that they're not you know expressing anger or frustration about Russia actually attacking the United States in this way?
NORM EISEN, CONTRIBUTOR, CNN: Anderson, thanks for having me. And it does not surprise me that they are doing this. It saddens me, and to be candid it angers me. Anderson, the risk of this puts aside the impropriety that we now have had 25 Russian individuals and 3 companies that have been exposed by Robert Mueller in overwhelming evidentiary detail as having attacked our democracy.
Put aside the terrible impropriety of blaming the Obama administration, of bogus claims that the President is making about a deep state of blaming the victim, the DNC. We have midterms coming up. And if the White House and President Trump are not willing to say Russia did this. It is wrong. Don't do it again. There will be consequences. It puts not just the past up for grabs but the future at stake. So I think it is a terrible dereliction of duty.
COOPER: What about calls -- I mean there were calls from Democrats that the President should have canceled the summit. Clearly, that is not going to happen. What do you want to see come out of this summit?
EISEN: Well, Anderson, it's a summit without an agenda as far as we can tell without preparation. The President will be alone in the room with only translators and Putin, no adult supervision. The best we can hope for is that no further damage is done and that Mr. Putin is not encouraged to attack again. There is no way that these high level attacks that were exposed on Friday by Bob Mueller, an overwhelming detail were not approved by Putin.
And so I am hoping for no further damage. I wrote in the New York Times that the President should cancel the summit, if not at a minimum, he should confront Putin. He should demand that the Russian individuals who have been charged by Bob Mueller be turned over. We know they won't be turned over.
COOPER: You know that is not going to happen, right?
EISEN: But the demand.
COOPER: Why demand?
[16:44:47] EISEN: To draw a line, Anderson, to send the message we're not going to tolerate this. And I think the President should say -- as President Obama said during the 2016 election. He took Putin aside and said, cut it out, buddy. There will be serious consequences if you don't. I think the President needs to confront Putin and he needs to repeat it at the post conversation press conference. Otherwise, we are at great risk of a repeat in the 2018 mid-terms.
COOPER: A nuclear arms and there are certainly important issues that need to be resolved.
EISEN: There is no question, Anderson. It is not just the arms race which is rekindling. It is also Syria where there is a terrible governance and humanitarian crisis. It is the lack of redress for the Crimea and Ukraine, which Russia invaded, upsetting the post World War II security structure. There are so many issues around the world for these two countries to discuss to discuss.
But Anderson, they're going to -- we're never going to be able to get past the Russian attack. It was an attack. The Russia attack on our democracy unless it can be honestly addressed, aired and the Russians know consequences.
COOPER: Ambassador Norm Eisen thanks very much. CNN special coverage of the upcoming summit continues. For some other news, let's head back over to CNN's Martin Savidge, Martin.
SAVIDGE: Thank you, Anderson. Coming up, heated protests in Chicago this weekend after police there shot and killed a man. We are getting more information about that shooting. The latest is next.
[16:50:00] SAVIDGE: Chicago police have just released the body cam footage of last night's fatal shooting last night. Minutes ago, the police superintendent of Chicago said that officers fired after the suspect reached for a gun. He said that the community deserves answers so he agreed to release the footage. Hours after last night's incident, Chicago streets exploded with violent protests and activists are calling for more that night.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we are willing to sacrifice more than just our freedom at this point to be free. We attack. We (Inaudible) are dying anyway. We are dead regardless. We are tired of the community violence we're tired of police violence. It is hurting worse from the police, because a lot of times it is racially motivated. We believe in our hearts.
CNN's Ryan Young is in Chicago for us. And Ryan, what are you hearing ahead of tonight's protests?
RYAN YOUNG, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Martin, a lot of deep wounds in this community, people very upset believing this man was unarmed. Let's talk about this first. The superintendent here wanted ted to have a conversation with that man's family, and that is what happened today. They were shown the video before we were shown the video. They wanted to calm down the community because obviously there was a lot of rumors the man being unarmed.
But we want to show you this video and give you an idea of what police were dealing with. They were doing a foot patrol, and those officers, we counted at least four of them were walking the streets. They've been asked to be in this area because of the legal guns in the area, and the crackdown in that area to suppress crime.
They came across this man. And as you can see in this video, there is a turn there. And you can see the gun in the waistband and the clip. So they moved from that situation, and as he turns his body, it looks like he is reaching for something. That is when the shots are fired. We should also go on to say there is a reason why there is no audio in the beginning.
There is a 30-second buffer when the police officers come in contact with somebody, and that body cam starts rolling. There are several hours of video that they have not had a chance to look at just yet, but they wanted to make sure the public saw this first, because you heard the call from the community members asking for more to be done.
And in fact, people did take to the streets, but this video is very important in terms of what it lays out. It shows the officers encountering the man and goes along with the narrative that they wanted to say that they saw a bulge and they asked the man sort of move and show them the gun, and then he steps to the side, and then the shots are fired.
And a lot of questions of whether or not he had a concealed carry permit. That is the police officers have said they checked several database. He did not have a concealed carry permit. He did have two clips. They found a holster as well. Police not saying what kind of gun it was, but at that point, they are making an outreach to the public to make sure not to have another night like they did last night, Martin.
SAVIDGE: Well, after watching we will through you, Ryan Young. Thanks very much. Coming up, France wins the World Cup, marking a historic victory, next, a look at the highlights from a remarkable game.
[16:55:00] SAVIDGE: Call it World Cup victory part (Inaudible), 20 years after claiming the first ever World Cup win. France is celebrating once again. Fans went wild as (Inaudible) beat up Croatia, 4-2 in the highest scoring World Cup final since 1966. CNN's Amanda Davies has reaction from outside of the stadium in Moscow.
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AMANDA DAVIES, SPORTS CORRESPONDENT, CNN: (Inaudible) on the top of the (Inaudible) stadium, France champions 2018. It is their fans heading home happy after a final that was as unpredictable as the last five weeks of football that we have seen here in Russia. This was a final that was billed as many people's pretournament favorites against the minnows of Croatia, and first time ever in the finals from a country with a population of just over 4 million.
And as thunder and lightning storm reverberated around this stadium, the atmosphere was really electric. Thousands of fans from both countries watching Croatia really with the better of the opening action, but it was France who struck the first blow and then continued to turn the screw when it mattered to run out 4-2 winners, a high scoring game that was action-packed and a very fitting end to what has been a fantastic five weeks of football, Martin.
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SAVIDGE: Amanda Davies from Moscow. Thanks very much, vive la France. Thanks for joining CNN Newsroom, Wolf Blitzer with Ana Cabrera as we'll pick up our special coverage right now.