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A Draft Deal On Brexit And An Emergency Meeting For The British Prime Minister Theresa May's Cabinet In Less Than An Hour; Violence Halted, But Now Political Fallout, Israel's Defense Minister Steps Down In Protest Over The Gaza Ceasefire; Warnings On Rohingya, The Us And The Un Say It Is Too Early To Return Persecuted Refugees Back To Myanmar; Another White House Shake-Up, This Time At The Demand Of The First Lady; The Death Tolls Has Climbed To 50 In Those Devastating Wildfires Raging In The Us State Of California, And 48 Of Them Are Connected To The Campfire In The Northern Part Of The State; An Airline's Pilot Group Is Accusing Boeing Of Withholding Critical Safety Information About The Aircraft Involved In The Deadly Lion Air Crash Near Indonesia Last Month. Aired: 8-9a ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST, NEWS STREAM: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to "News Stream." A draft deal on Brexit and an emergency meeting

for the British Prime Minister Theresa May's Cabinet in less than an hour. Plus, violence halted, but now political fallout. Israel's Defense

Minister steps down in protest over the Gaza ceasefire. And warnings on Rohingya. The US and the UN say it is too early to return persecuted

refugees back to Myanmar.

"We are delivering," that was the message from Britain's Prime Minister in the last hour as she spoke in the House of Commons for the first time since

reaching that draft divorce deal with EU negotiators on Brexit. But though there were heated changes, the real battle today comes in the next hour

when Theresa May hosts an emergency Cabinet meeting to get support for her plan.

It is felt that the blueprint that she is putting forward would keep the UK in close alignment with the EU and that is already raising some major

concerns. Let's go straight to Max Foster in Westminster. Max, Theresa May, may have a draft deal, but she needs to sell it.

MAX FOSTER, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: She really does. We hear so much about make or break moments in the Brexit process, but this is yet another one

and it really is a crunch moment for her for the UK and for the European Union as well. So she has reached some sort of outline agreement with the

European Union, with Brussels. She is going to present that to her Cabinet and they have to approve it, and they're not going to be happy about it.

Not everyone, because this is such a divisive issue.

Some of those Cabinet members are going to be very upset about it. The question is, whether or not that's enough for them to vote against it, then

that deal needs to come to Parliament and the feeling here certainly is that it wouldn't get through Parliament. No Nick is going to explain how

this is going to work.

First of all, we haven't seen the deal, but there's been a lot of leaks. What do we know about it so far?

NIC ROBERTSON, INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR, CNN: More than 500 pages that it allows for an extension of the transition period, which ultimately

makes some of the harder Brexiteers unhappy because as long as you're in a transition period, you can't go out and cut those big business deals that

they said was part of the attraction of having a Brexit deal, so there's criticism there.

But also during that extended transition period, you don't have - Britain doesn't have a voice at the EU table, yet they're beholden to its rules,

laws and regulations and that is something that's causing problems for her on the side of the remainers as well.

So this is a great deal of difficulty, and of course, shaping the minds of those Cabinet members on how they choose to respond to Theresa May will, of

course, be the backdrop of what you said which is how a Parliamentary vote here may go in a few weeks or a little longer time because that comes down

to their own political careers and their own political interests.

But the Theresa May, the Prime Minister questioned time today was defending herself, defending what she's done and against the leader of the

opposition, Jeremy Corbyn who was, again, criticizing her for failing to deliver a good deal. This is what she said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

THERESA MAY, PRIME MINISTER OF THE UNITED KINGDOM: Time and time again, he has stood up in in this House and complained and said that the government

isn't making progress, the government isn't anywhere close to a deal. Now, when we're making progress and close to a deal, he's complaining about

that. Can I just say, I think what that clearly shows is that he and the Labor Party have only one intention, that is to frustrate Brexit and betray

the vote of the British people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: But the other political hurdle she'll of course face when it comes to a vote is that support from the Northern Ireland MPs and will they

detect in these more than 500 pages a sort of a salami slice cutting away their connections to the UK, to mainland UK. And of course, they've said

this is unacceptable.

So of course, people have really got to look at the details, which is where they are at the moment, but they've hinted that it could cost their support

for Theresa May.

FOSTER: Nic, rudely being interrupted by a police helicopter, but we can go to Erin, as well, who is in Brussels, because Erin, we should outline

that this is just an initial sort of document which will set the scene for the negotiations going forward, and certainly there are people in Brussels

today saying actually, it was - it's very much in their favor because all power is on their side once we get into those talks.

ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, at this point Max, an EU diplomat telling me that this is not a deal. That the deal is not done

until Cabinet signs off on it and then sends it back to the ...

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MCLAUGHLIN: ... EU to be scrutinized ahead of a summit that would be expected if things go according to plan today by November 25th. At this

point though, there's radio silence here in Brussels on this process. An acknowledgement from EU diplomats and EU officials I've been speaking to of

the fragility of the situation. The only EU leader we've heard so far on the Brexit topic is the Irish Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar addressing Parliament

there in Dublin earlier today saying that he doesn't want to say anything that would make for a difficult situation for Theresa May going into this

critical emergency Cabinet meeting.

He did, however, say that he plans to put this text to Irish Parliament for a vote. So that gives you a sense of the complexities of the situation,

the number of parties involved in this process. EU sources telling me that the member states have yet to see this draft text. There will be an

Ambassador level meeting here in Brussels, in the next hour. There, they're expected to briefed on the state of play as well as those no deal

preparations that are continuing here in Brussels, that Cabinet meeting of that emergency meeting in Brussels happening at the same time as that very

critical Cabinet meeting that Theresa May is going to be hosting there in London, Max.

FOSTER: Yes, Nic, what happens if she doesn't get it through the Cabinet, presumably, the way she set this up means that she has got no choice but to

resign. She is saying, this is make or break herself.

ROBERTSON: Well, it is - yes, she has and that has been a sort of a political tactic in which she has gone along which has worked for her. It

does come down to those calculations now for these Cabinet members. Is this a moment where they can kick the can down the road a little bit

further or is this a moment where they have got to stand up and go with their convictions?

I think, you know, what could come out of this, the other options, the potential options here with some of those Cabinet members could resign

which would weaken her position. They also could not only reject this but, essentially call for her resignation, too.

So it can get a lot worse for her here, but what she will say to them is that if you - if we - if you collapse essentially undermine me, undermine

the government, collapse the government, force an election, number one, you could lose that election. Number two, this would force a hard Brexit. Do

you want that on your conscience with all the complications? And we know that this week, already some of the sort of food suppliers in the UK

already taking and making and have made decisions to stockpile food in the event of a hard Brexit. Political cost, economic cost now become

immediate.

FOSTER: Okay, Kristie, the meeting due to start in an hour. We should get a result pretty quickly. We should find out what's in the agreement, as

well, so we'll bring that to you.

LU STOUT: Yes, so many details, a number of hurdles ahead. Max Foster, Nic Robertson joining us from Westminster. Erin McLaughlin live from

Brussels, a big thank you to all of you.

Now the defense minister of Israel, he has resigned over that ceasefire with Gaza militants. The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has

defended an end to the fighting despite criticism from hard liners within his own government. The ceasefire ends the most severe fighting between

the two sides since 2014.

CNN's Oren Lieberman joins us live from Jerusalem. Now, Oren, again, Israel's Defense Minister has resigned slamming Netanyahu in the process,

how does this change the political landscape in the country?

OREN LIEBERMAN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, Netanyahu has a 66-seat coalition out of 120 seats. The Defense Minister has five of those seats, so even if

he resigns and takes his party out of the coalition, which he has, Netanyahu is left with a 61-seat coalition. That's the bare minimum needed

to run this country, to be the Prime Minister. But it is enough and he had only a 61-seat coalition for about two years after the last elections in

early 2015.

But now, though, other parties have leverage over Netanyahu. The Education Minister, another right-wing politician has demanded the portfolio of the

Defense Minister or said he will call early elections. And that's the sort of negotiations, that's the sort of demands that are happening behind the

scenes now.

Now, Lieberman, that is Avigdor Lieberman, the Defense Minister has said he is resigning because he was opposed to the ceasefire. He wanted to deliver

a harder blow to Hamas, perhaps go after some of Hamas' leadership. In fact, right after the ceasefire was announced, he came out and said he was

against it. That was a surprising move because the ceasefire was decided in what should have been a secret security Cabinet meeting.

Then early this morning, the Defense Minister calls a press conference and announces his resignation saying he was not only opposed to the ceasefire,

but he was also opposed to $15 million in cash going into Gaza last week from Qatar.

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LIEBERMAN: So he's come out and said, "Look, we've all known there are differences between me and Prime Minister on this one, now I am resigning

and urging early elections." Netanyahu defended his actions saying, "Look, sometimes you have to do not what's popular but the right decision," and he

insisted his decision was right and was backed by the Security Cabinet and backed by security authorities here in Israel even if it wasn't the most

popular one in the spirit of the people, he said. Kristie.

LU STOUT: And what does his resignation mean for the ceasefire? Will the call for peace prevail or could we see a return of hostilities?

LIEBERMAN: It shouldn't affect the ceasefire itself. That should hold independently of the Defense Minister's resignation, in fact, we already

got statements from Hamas saying that the resignation of the Defense Minister was a political victory for them, a success for them, especially

because it came so quickly after the ceasefire. It shouldn't affect the ceasefire. That being said, independent of that with, the ceasefire is

fragile on its own and we'll see if and how long it holds on its own.

LU STOUT: All right, Oren Lieberman reporting live from Jerusalem, Oren, thank you. Now to Singapore where the US Vice President Mike Pence has

issued a sharp rebuke to Myanmar over the Rohingya crisis.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The violence and persecution by military and vigilante that's resulted in driving 700,000

Rohingya to Bangladesh is without excuse. I'm anxious to hear about the progress that you're making holding those accountable who are responsible

for the violence that displaced so many hundreds of thousands, created such suffering including the loss of life.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: And Vice President Pence made those comments to Aung San Suu Kyi on the sidelines of the latest ASEAN Summit and the comments from both the

United States and the United Nations are warning against a new plan that would repatriate thousands of Rohingya refugees starting on Thursday. They

say conditions in Myanmar are not conducive.

Matt Rivers is following this story from Beijing and he joins us now, and Matt, Vice President Pence, he raised this issue directly with Aung San Suu

Kyi, and yet very remains unmoved about the plight of the Rohingya.

MATT RIVERS, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Yes, absolutely. And in some ways, we shouldn't be surprised by that because that has been her consistent

position, really, since this violence started. She refuses to come out and use her position of moral authority to really condemn what happened there.

And there's a lot of domestic political reasons for her decision, more than likely, we can go into that all day long, but the reality is that her

government refuses to call out what actually happened. And this comes as you mentioned, as this repatriation plan could start as early as tomorrow.

So what does it look like?

Well, what Myanmar is saying is that over the next two weeks, beginning tomorrow, they're going to take 150 refugees per day back into Myanmar.

But there's a ton of confusion about whether that is actually going to happen. Myanmar insists it will. They said they've come to some

conclusion with Bangladesh about who would come back. But they haven't really said how they made that list, so there is a ton of doubt as to

whether this is actually going to happen, but it has created a ton of fear amongst refugees who do not want to come back. I was there not that long

ago, Kristie, in Myanmar, in Rakhine State where this happened.

We actually spoke to some of the refugees who were in between Bangladesh and Myanmar in what's called no man's land and they don't want to come

back. They're terrified. The same people who would oversee their repatriation are the same people accused of carrying out a genocide. They

still wouldn't get citizenship, they wouldn't be able to go back to their original land that they were kicked out of, so why would they want to come

back?

So Myanmar says this process is going to start, the UN and the US and rights groups say it shouldn't start because conditions aren't right. So

just another element to this stalemate, Kristie. There is no end in sight, no solution in sight for these Rohingya refugees.

LU STOUT: Yes, they don't want to go back and they have many, many reasons behind that, backing that up. Matt Rivers reporting for us. Matt, thank

you so much. You're watching "News Stream."

And still to come, right here in the program, the First Lady Of the United States, Melania Trump, puts her foot down demanding the removal of a senior

White House adviser and even more staffers could be on the chopping block.

And the death toll from those devastating wildfires in California that continues to rise as firefighters there struggle to control the blazes.

[08:15:00]

LU STOUT: Live from Hong Kong, welcome back, this is "News Stream." Another White House shake-up, this time at the demand of the First Lady.

In an unprecedented move, Melania Trump has called for the firing of deputy national security adviser Mira Ricardel. Mrs. Trump's office released a

statement on Tuesday saying that Ricardel quote "no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House." The senior official clashed with

the East Wing's staff during the First Lady's recent trip to Africa and official tells CNN, that President Trump does intend to fire Ricardel.

The death tolls has climbed to 50 in those devastating wildfires raging in the US state of California, and 48 of them are connected to the Campfire in

the northern part of the state. In the south, there is now a new threat, the Sierra fire, it just sprang up overnight. It is now threatening homes

outside of Los Angeles, and gusty winds, they're still fueling the Woolsey fire which has left two people dead. Bill Weir has more from Ventura

County.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

BILL WEIR, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Some of the canyons above Malibu look like the surface of the moon with almost nothing left to burn. But all it takes

is one hot ember riding one gust of wind to create a whole new front in this war on nature. Imagine living down in that valley and realizing the

only thing between your entire life and that wall of flame are these incredible pilots.

Not just helicopter pilots, but big tanker jet pilots who are bouncing around in these 40 to 50-mile-per-hour gusts trying to precisely hit those

spots.

In the space of two hours, we watched a full aerial assault above Hidden Valley with a swarm of helicopters sucking hundreds of thousands of gallons

of lake water to drop on the flare-ups. The fixed wing tankers bomb the flames with a jelly-like retardant, each run costing California thousands

of dollars. Sea water is cheaper and the day brought the surreal side of surfers and super scoopers sharing the lineup at Malibu Beach.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, you're going to be picking up some --

WEIR: With crews from Orange County to Idaho spotting from the ground, the wind shifts, residential areas spared and they win this skirmish. But no

one can relax until the Santa Ana winds show mercy.

I'm Bill Weir from CNN.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible).

WEIR: Thank you for your service, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's what we're here for.

WEIR: Are you guys getting any sleep or --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Intermittently.

WEIR: And it is anyone's guess how many of these smoldering hot spots remain in the canyons and hillsides of Malibu and that's what has so many

people worried. This fire is not even out, and it has already set records in terms of the cost of human life and dollars, of course. But what is

worse is that it's only going to get worse. When the rains eventually come, all of this ash will turn to mud. All of the vegetation that held

those hillsides together will - it doesn't exist anymore. So for generations, people have known that if you want to live in paradise, the

cost were mudslides when it rains and wildfires when it doesn't. It seems like on a crowded planet that just is getting hotter by the year, that cost

is going up and up.

[08:20:06]

WEIR: There are plenty of frustrated residents of Malibu still under the evacuation order who want to come home and assess what's left of their

lives, but what they don't appreciate is how many power lines, how many burned and cracked power poles are hanging in precipitous fashion over so

many roadways. You've got busted gas lines, melted roads, so this is just the beginning of what seems to be a record slow motion disaster. Back to

you.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

LU STOUT: Bill Weir, thank you. Now, the governor of California, Jerry Brown says climate change is another factor making fire management more

difficult. He told Christiane Amanpour that disasters like this are going to be much more common.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JERRY BROWN, GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA: The temperatures are warming. The winds are getting more intense. The fires are more likely. The hurricanes

are more intense. Warming is occurring because of the continuing and rising carbon emissions and that's occurring in many countries in Europe as

well as in the United States, and you have the Republican Party that is virtually in denial about this, as well as the President. But you also

have leaders in Europe that are not doing what they need to.

What you're seeing in California is the new abnormal. You will see it in Europe. You will see it in Russia. You will see it in china. You will

see millions of refugees from Africa because the heat will be unbearable. And we're not talking 50 years, we're talking 10, 15, 20 years and these

events come about in ways we never expect. So there are tipping points, we can pass them before we even know about it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: Renowned climatologist and wildlife activist Jane Goodall has a message for climate change deniers. She says that climate change cycles

are quote "faster, they're dangerous and they're human-made." I spoke with Goodall about our impact on the planet and what we can do to reverse

it. Here is the first part of our conversation.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

JANE GOODALL, CLIMATOLOGIST AND WILDLIFE ACTIVIST: What is so strange, you know, I spent all those years studying our closest relatives, the

chimpanzees. And they're so much more intelligent than people used to think, plus we've discovered that other animals are also incredibly

intelligent, which when I began I was told, you know, animals didn't have the right kind of brain to be intelligent and to have emotions. We now

know even little rats can be extraordinarily intelligent, do the intelligence tests of dogs.

So isn't it bizarre that the most intellectual creature to ever walk the planet, the one thing that makes us more different than anything else from

our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, how is it we're destroying trashing the planet.

You know, we're clever must have to design a rocket that went to Mars, a little robot that crawled off taking photographs. We've seen those

photographs. We don't want to live on Mars and how come that we're destroying our one little green and blue and beautiful planet because

somehow or other, we've made a disconnect between the clever brain, which is now set plunging us into this materialistic world of immediate profit

and it is disconnected from love and compassion, the human heart.

LU STOUT: We have, as you put it, trashed the planet and we've seen evidence of that in species lost, in habitat loss, also in climate change.

GOODALL: Well, yes, and climate change, we talk a lot about limiting the emissions of fossil fuel, which is very important, no question. But a

shorter term solution, to buy time, well, our clever brain comes up with more technologies for clean, green energy, for example. Saving and

restoring our tropical forests because they absorb CO2, they give out oxygen, and we're trashing them so fast.

So that's one thing we can do for now and also doing something about the horrible pollution of the ocean. That's the other great lung of the world

that absorbs CO2 and gives out oxygen.

LU STOUT: There are many world leaders out there, including US President Donald Trump, who says climate change is not a problem and recently, he

said, it'll change right back. What's your message?

GOODALL: There's also a Chinese hoax. I always say, if it's a Chinese hoax, clever Chinese because it's so real. So in Greenland, I've seen the

ice melting in early spring that never used to melt even in the summer. I can't remember the ice cap on top of the world has fallen, such a shocking

amount. I can't remember how much. Sea level is rising. The hurricanes and the typhoons here in Hong Kong, they just had a horrible typhoon, and

it was even the edge of it, not the eye of it, and they're getting more frequent and more dangerous and flooding is getting ...

[08:25:10]

GOODALL: ... worse. And droughts are getting worse. Look at the wildfires in California. I mean, awful, awful because so many years of

drought. What do I make of the people who are deny climate change or say it's part of a cycle? There has been a cycle, but this one is faster and

more dangerous and it's human made.

LU STOUT: What is the single biggest change that we can do in our lives as consumers to help protect our environment?

GOODALL: Well, I think it's, you know, one thing is to think about the consequences of the choices you make, what you buy, what you eat, what you

wear. That if everybody begins making ethical choices, you know, is it cheap because of child slave labor? Is the meat cheap because of all these

cruel conditions? That's one thing we all can do every single day.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

LU STOUT: Solid advice we can act on there from Jane Goodall. I also just had to ask her about this remarkable moment that was caught on camera when

a chimpanzee named Wounda, a chimpanzee that was rehabilitated from near death gave her this hug before returning back into the wild.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOODALL: It was one of the most moving things that's ever happened to me and she was on the boat going to this island, this island paradise. And I

- she must have been - she was with people she knew, but still where am I going? What's happening to me now? And so I was reassuring her through

the bars of the cage and it seems I have a calming effect on animals. So coming out of the cage, and you see her looking around and then she looks

back at me. It's almost like a little jump and this amazing embrace.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: Oh, it gets me every single time I see that clip. The second part of my interview with Jane Goodall. You don't want to miss it, it airs

tomorrow right here at "News Stream" at the usually time, 9:00 p.m. in Hong Kong, 1:00 p.m. in London, only on CNN. You're watching "News Stream."

And still to come, pilots say they were not warned about a potential safety issue with Boeing's newest 737 planes. We've got the details and the

analysis on that with Mary Schiavo, next.

I'm Kristi Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream" and these are your world headlines. In just about 30 minutes, the British Prime

Minister will face her Cabinet at an emergency meeting on Brexit. Theresa May has struck a draft divorce deal with EU negotiators, but a priority now

is selling the deal ...

[08:30:10 ]

LU STOUT: ... to her own lawmakers and then Parliament. After that, the rest of the EU will have its say.

Israel's Defense Minister has resigned over a ceasefire with Gaza militants and called for early parliamentary elections. Israeli Prime Minister

Benjamin Netanyahu is defending an end to the fighting despite criticism from hardliners within his own government. Now, the ceasefire ends the

most severe fighting between the two sides since 2014.

The United States and the United Nations are warning against a plan that would repatriate thousands of Rohingya refugees back to Myanmar. They say

conditions of the country are not conducive to resettling. That repatriation was set to begin on Thursday and continue for the next two

weeks.

An airline's pilot group is accusing Boeing of withholding critical safety information about the aircraft involved in the deadly Lion Air crash near

Indonesia last month. Lion Air is now backing up those claims. The Allied Pilots Association says Boeing did not inform them of the potential hazards

of new flight control features on the 737 Max until after the crash. Lion Air says it did not receive any information, either.

Now, aside from Lion Air, Boeing 737 Max 8 and 9, they have been popular with other airlines around the world, including US carriers like Southwest,

United, and American. In India, Spice Jet, Britain's RyanAir to just name a few. Ivan Watson has more.

IVAN WATSON, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Kristie, an influential pilot's association has called Boeing, the plane manufacturer

into question saying that it has left out important information, information that could have been a contributing factor to the crash of Lion

Air flight 610 on October 29th where 189 passengers and crew died off the coast of Indonesia.

Now, this has to do with an apparent failure on that particular plane, a brand new Boeing 737 Max 8 of its angle of attack sensor. Last week, in

the wake of this air disaster, Boeing published what it describes as a flight crew operations manual. And it calls attention to the failure of

this particular sensor and says that when this fails, it can convince the plane's computer that the plane is in a stall and to correct that, the auto

payment may push the plane's nose down into a dive.

Well, the Allied Pilots Association which represents pilots from American Airlines which operates Boeing 737 Max 8 airplanes, it says that this is an

important information and the omission of this from the pilot's manual calls into question other information about this particular model of

airplane that could have been left out.

Lion Air says this has also been left out of its pilot's manual by Boeing and left out of training, as well, for its pilots. CNN has reached out to

Boeing about this. Boeing says it can't comment on the ongoing investigation. It stands by the safety of its Boeing 737 max 8 and that,

quote, "We have provided two updates for our operators around the world that reemphasize existing procedures for these situations."

Now we don't know the exact reason for why the plane crashed, but we do know that this particular aircraft had problems four times in previous

flights before the doomed flight on October 29th of its angle of attack sensor and, in fact, that particular piece of technology was replaced the

eve of the doomed flight. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Ivan Watson there, now, let's bring in CNN's aviation analyst, Mary Schiavo. She joins us live from Charleston, South Carolina. Thank

you so much for joining us on the program. We have pilots saying that Boeing add this augmented flight control system to the 737 Max and did not

tell them. If that's the case, why would Boeing do this?

MARY SCHIAVO, AVIATION ANALYST, CNN: Well, I think there's you know, sort of the old school new school. Pilots are not just flying a plane any more.

Pilots are flying a computer. And so when Boeing put in this system, it's the MCAS, the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, they

possibly, I obviously don't know what Boeing was thinking, but considered it sort of like a software program, running in the background of the plane

to give added protections to the plane.

And what that did was when a pilot was hand flying an airplane, so much of it is computer flown now, but when it was hand flying the airplane, it

would have given added protection against stalling, meaning that the airflow of the winds was not sufficient enough and it did that by

automatically pushing the nose down.

[08:35:07]

SCHIAVO: But here, we've got a whole different overlay of problems because on this flight, as in three previous flights, the question is - we'll wait

for the investigation - how did those pilots get out of the situation not knowing about MCAS. But in the crashing plane, right, in the crashing

plane, they had to resort to the manuals first to figure out what do you do with unreliable air speed and a bad angle of attack indicator.

Let me use my little model here. That angle of attack indicator gives the pilots indication whether you're nose up or nose down. In a stall, usually

you're too far nose up and the air flow doesn't go over your wings enough. But the instructions in the pilot manual say if you've got a bad air speed

indication and a bad angle of attack indicator, to put the nose up a little bit. Forward it to 8 or 10 degrees.

But then, because you're hand flying the plane, because when you have unreliable air speed, you have to turn off auto pilot and auto throttle.

Then the airplane itself with this new system Boeing put in says, "Oh, well, they're hand flying the plane and the nose is up. I'm going to put

it down." But the pilots don't know why.

And so they have the fight going on that we saw on the radar of the plane purposing as the pilots probably -- now, we don't know yet -- were

following manual, put the nose up a bit, and the plane put it right back down and the pilots had no way of knowing why.

LU STOUT: Yes, it's very likely that they didn't know what to do because they didn't have this information. So the situation that the doomed Lion

Air crew faced, that was not in the flight manual. It hasn't been in the manual for many, many other 737 Max planes flying all over the world until

we find out definitively what happened to the Lion Air flight. Could this disaster happen again?

SCHIAVO: Well, certainly. And that's why I think that Boeing put out this operations advisory, this bulletin, now the US Federal Aviation

Administration denies that they are taking separate action, that they are leaving it in the hands of the investigators, but there have been several

warnings that have come out, including some that seem unrelated.

For example, there was a warning yesterday from the FAA about pilots pulling circuit breakers in emergencies and that is what you would do if

you're trying to figure out in the plane what you think is happening and if you've got what would seem like a runaway tram and if aren't trained how to

turn it off, you'd start pulling circuit breakers.

So there are a lot of things the pilots would have done old school, pull the breakers, versus what Boeing is now telling people have to be done.

And of course, now they're telling us that there is just two little switches that they could have turned it off, but nobody told them.

LU STOUT: Oh, my goodness. Critical information. Mary Schiavo, we'll leave it at that. Thank you very much indeed for joining us. You're

watching "News Stream." We'll be back right after this.

All right, we're coming to you live from Hong Kong. This is "News Stream." A lonely dog has become an internet sensation in China for showing true

loyalty to its owner. This dog has been coming back to the same road every day since its owner died there in August. This video has 1.4 million views

on Sina Weibo, and many of the comments, as you can believe it ...

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LU STOUT: ... of course, they praise the dog for its loyalty. Now to Hanoi where a Vietnamese local and an Australian expat has formed one of

the most popular beer tours in the city teaching people about a famous brew with a history dating back to wartime.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The sun has gone down on Hanoi and Ta Hien Street has come to life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you really want to get up close and personal with the culture in your city, in particular, the culture of the local people,

you need to stroll the sidewalks, sit on a stool and have a nice, cold beer and that's what I love about Ta Hien Steet.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Meet Brett Macdouall and Tan Wu, beer tour guides in Hanoi.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We better go over there and have a few local beers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The two first bonded over a brew in 2005, only to find out that their fathers both fought on opposing sides of the Vietnam War.

BRETT MACDOUALL, FOUNDER, HANOI BEER TOUR: So here are two boys, both born in 1974, really grown up in the 1980s and I suppose you could say

ideologically very opposed, but the first time we sat down over a cold beer and spoke with one another, we realized that our familial or our family

values were very, very similar. And from that day on, we've become the very best of friends.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now joined together as friends and business partners, Brett and Tan run Hanoi Beer Tours.

TAN WU, CO-FOUNDER, HANOI BEER TOURS: That store over there is a Hang full beer, it's a billed cooler. That was the first shop serving the Hanoi

beer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Teaching others the history of the city in Ta Hien Street through the stories of beer, a story that began in the late 1800s

when the French opened up the city's first brewery.

MACDOUALL: The French brought the beer brewing culture to Vietnam. Before that, it was probably rice wine.

WU: We call the moonshine and the rice wine and the medicine rice wine.

MACDOUALL: It was during when only the Hanoi beer brewing factory was first set up, so really, from that time on, the beer drinking culture

really evolved rapidly. And it evolved through the workers after a hard day's work wanting to have a nice, cold beer to cool the body and it was

also through the curiosity. People wanted to see what Westerners were drinking.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But back then, beer was expensive. Not for everyone, that was until the late 1950s when finally a beer for the people was born.

LU STOUT: And yep, I would raise a glass to that and that is it for "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout, but don't go anywhere. "World Sport with

Christina Macfarlane is next.

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